Not all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH5IxkTFM4Y

But overall we can be a pretty good species when we want to.

I never understood why people put these group mentalities around the concept of faith

I think even if there is no religion there will be a person like hitler

Black pigeon thinks Trump might be assassinated by the same people who assassinated JFK.

Clearly, Hitler didn't have a religious background or worldview that I'm aware of.

basically:
- You have humans who are shit
- Humans who are amazing
- Humans who are in between

whether they believe in a god has no bearing on the goodness of a human

@Dr.Wol

My understanding was he wasn't all that receptive of religion in general.

I'm a Shit one

True

Im in between.

so am i

tho i tend to be closer to shit than amzing 😉

Depends, do you believe that knowledge and understanding are metrics of human virtue?

no

If so, believe in God is good or bad depending on whether or not God exists.

As long as people don't bring religious law or ask for special treatment its fine

Asking for special treatment is something no man should do.

Really? So an utter imbecile is, controlling for all other factors, just as good or valuable a person as a learned genius?

Separate church and state

a humans lived experience and what they're taught from people who inspire them, tends to be the factors that make a person moral/virtuous/good

Isn't being tax-free special treatment

(((State)))

Yup

good != valueable Bookworm

a person can be uneducated, dumb but still be a kind-hearted human being

**who the fuck is tax-free**

a person can be a genius, who spits on people, backstabs them, and knows the greatest secrets

The Church

How are you measuring a human, then, Wol?

Yeah no thank you

Any religious entity can become tax free

Anyways

Scientologist as well

I know that it's that way in the US at least

Imagine a society without taxes. How would it work?

Yes, but we were talking about knowledge and understanding, not the other virtues.

Anarchy

I am the state your God, who brought you up out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourselves an idol, nor any image of anything that is in the heavens above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: you shall not bow yourself down to them, nor serve them, for I, the state your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and on the fourth generation of those who hate me, and showing loving kindness to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.