@wacka L98A2 Cadet?

the one I used was teh L98A1

Why would anyone want a L98?

(not much difference)

its basically the SA80

which the british army uses

@wacka I'm disappointed that there has been so much stupidity, graft, and politics in small arms purchases

@wacka We'd all be shooting FAL derivatives today, and loving it.

Or, you know, maybe the brits would've gotten ARs

I dont minf the fact that its extremely difficult to get guns in the UK

and... like I said.. you can buy AR-15s in the UK... I even provided an online link above 😛

I mean the L85 etc. were a dumb choice for military in Britain

not talking about private ownership

ah I see

AR was a waste for the U.S. when they did it too, in my opinion

well... in the mil Id take SA80 over Ar-15

you'd take one over any AR-pattern rifle, even one intended for military use?

@King Canuck did u watch the stream ?

sure... briti is best! 😛

@wacka what benefit does the SA80 have over an AR-pattern rifle?

overall length is not that different from an M4

its probably why the UK arms companies sell £17bn worth to the US

ergonomics are considerably worse

they don't sell 17bn quid in SA80s to the US

17bn weapons in general

By the time they were designing these things, all of the patents applicable to the AR pattern were expired

ditto FAL

(which they were already using)

and the Steyr AUG

Merkel did not really win... last election was the worst result for her party since 1949 (which, obviously, was the very first election) and the only reason she did not lose more votes is that the leaders of the parties people voted for instead are... let’s just say they not good with their public image...

why was that the first election 😛 was hindenburg not elected?

She did stay in power though... so... she did not lose hard enough.

@wacka they also pussied out on the EM-2

Because the country did not exist before that... and something else...

so hindenburg was not chancellor of germany before hitler?

Thats semantics @wacka , like whats the number of current french republic.

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He was president of the Weimarer Republic, the current Germany was founded in 1949. Since the initial statement was about elections that is kinda important (different democratic... or undemocratic... systems)

In another context it would be semantics, yes.