Message from @Cody

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2018-10-30 06:22:58 UTC  

Atleast for now

2018-10-30 06:23:03 UTC  

Needing other countries for trade is not the same as needing them for labor

2018-10-30 06:23:03 UTC  

yeah, and those citzens that would be immigrants won't give a fuck about their own government morale grand standing over none-issues

2018-10-30 06:23:08 UTC  

We don't need more people

2018-10-30 06:23:15 UTC  

they'll look up the laws, and go for it if it looks worth it

2018-10-30 06:23:19 UTC  

or if they have good oppertunities

2018-10-30 06:23:23 UTC  

Isolationism right now would destroy and destabilize our economy

2018-10-30 06:23:52 UTC  

'immigrants will do jobs amaricans don't want to do'
robots are already farming and this will scale exponentially. no need for low wage jobs soon.

2018-10-30 06:23:56 UTC  

I never said we should be isolationist. That comes with a lot more baggage than what I'm saying. Lower immigration isn;t a big deal

2018-10-30 06:24:07 UTC  

isloationism to what degree?

2018-10-30 06:24:20 UTC  

securing your borders and only letting in skilled migrants will only be a net benefit

2018-10-30 06:24:41 UTC  

You saying that's isolationist is like saying someone is a communist because they like welfare

2018-10-30 06:24:45 UTC  

That's a fuckin leap

2018-10-30 06:24:48 UTC  

I'm not saying its what's wrong in fact I think it would be good

2018-10-30 06:25:21 UTC  

I'm just questioning every possible solution and trying to determine which is the most optimal

2018-10-30 06:25:29 UTC  

MS13 provides so many jobs to law enforcement

2018-10-30 06:25:52 UTC  

And so far I cant not see how each one wouldnt effect us in a drastically large way

2018-10-30 06:26:04 UTC  

I'm not trying to prevent you from questioning everything. That's good. I'm just pushing back on some assumptions you're making that I think are innacurate

2018-10-30 06:26:58 UTC  

Except I am using a foreign base for my understanding on the issue

2018-10-30 06:27:14 UTC  

Look at Hungary I think it is

2018-10-30 06:27:40 UTC  

They closed their border and have been hit by a global backlash against them

2018-10-30 06:27:53 UTC  

Whether their cause is just or not is irrelevant

2018-10-30 06:28:10 UTC  

er, the global backlash was more the destruction of their legal system and generally anti-democratic moves wasn't it?

2018-10-30 06:28:11 UTC  

America isn't Hungary though

2018-10-30 06:28:29 UTC  

There's so much nuance that you're missing by just comparing two countries that are going to enforce borders

2018-10-30 06:28:51 UTC  

That's true but the only data we have suggests what could happen to us if we follow suit

2018-10-30 06:29:13 UTC  

America is a global super power that is very progressive compared to hungary

2018-10-30 06:29:18 UTC  

you're fault here is assuming their immigration system is the result of the backlash

2018-10-30 06:29:41 UTC  

most of the backlash i've seen is more about them moving more towards a dictator system?

2018-10-30 06:29:50 UTC  

Even if they cry that we shot the immigrants with net guns and set up a camp to process them, they can;t touch us

2018-10-30 06:29:54 UTC  

We're fucking America

2018-10-30 06:30:08 UTC  

Also the rhetoric coming out of hungary

2018-10-30 06:30:14 UTC  

They cant hurt us

2018-10-30 06:30:17 UTC  

The government is pretty red pilled and does not pull punches

2018-10-30 06:30:35 UTC  

Not the way the EU has a strangle hold on Hungary

2018-10-30 06:30:42 UTC  

Do that would have the biggest net negative out of all solutions

2018-10-30 06:30:55 UTC  

Every trade partner we have would sanction us

2018-10-30 06:31:00 UTC  

We would be doomed

2018-10-30 06:31:03 UTC  

What world are you living in?

2018-10-30 06:31:14 UTC  

Stopping them at the border and processing them isn't the holocaust