Well I think pulling out and just leaving everyone to their own devices will eventually throw the whole region into chaos and involve all the eastern nations.

Problem is that we just aren't good at fixing things like that

so let them

its not our problem

You can't fix stupid, and those regions are stupid

It is true that we could stay and fix things, but we are bad at it

Well we could get other nations who know what they are doing in fixing help us... guide us.

Then we can learn from it.

you put too much faith in the intelligence of man

if there were nations who would know how to fix those things, they'd be fixed by now

With Trump, we have a huge glimpse into what it is like being president.

Since he can't keep his mouth shut on that topic.

XD

If we aren't already doing it, we probably won't be doing it anytime soon

Dusty its the military industrial complex

Why you are not pulling out

Let them all go,

They'll kill each other like they do now, but not at our cost anymore
Then after they thinned themselves out, they'll find peace and start rebuilding

I think we should just build up central government of the region, then just leave.

a central government

They got to trump too

Tried that with Iraq already

Ugh... brain hurts. Want to help others, but don't want to bring more pain to our citizens.

I want to fix America's fuck ups.

But how can we do that when if leaving means throwing a whole region in chaos.

Its not that they "got to Trump" Zutt

Its that Trump knows that the arms industry is rooted too deep in the American economy, they simply need the cash-flow

Like when he run for pres. Tump said he will pull out from Afghanistan

Now

Carter already got us in trouble with the middle east when he started meddling

He increased boots on the ground

The region is already thrown into chaos Dusty

Best thing we can do is work on us and be an example

Carter has and always be considered one of the worst presidents.

Him and Obama.

sorry pal, Bush

Carter wasnt so bad

Most presidents over the last few decades suck

Well true, Bush too.

And obama was fixing bushes mess

Bush, Bush, Obama, Carter

Those are the bad ones in recent history

from bad to okay-ish

Bush Senior was actually smart about doing thing.