Message from @RyeNorth

Discord ID: 687694326612099164


2020-03-12 16:07:29 UTC  

Quote me.

2020-03-12 16:07:58 UTC  

"The difference is irrelevant if you're making a constitutional argument."

2020-03-12 16:08:02 UTC  

I wasn't

2020-03-12 16:08:04 UTC  

you were

2020-03-12 16:08:10 UTC  

Sure

2020-03-12 16:08:40 UTC  

given the constitutional argument simply dismissed on pre-requisite maters, do you not see the connection?

2020-03-12 16:08:45 UTC  

Ex: My state is PA

2020-03-12 16:09:06 UTC  

our state const states: "THe right to bear arms SHALL NOT BE QUESTIONED"

2020-03-12 16:09:13 UTC  

You're implying I see no problem with that

2020-03-12 16:09:26 UTC  

now, if the contitutional argument HELD states would be allowed to decide for themselves

2020-03-12 16:09:34 UTC  

but those rules aren't honored

2020-03-12 16:09:57 UTC  

A problem.

2020-03-12 16:10:12 UTC  

So dismissing my original assertion in favor of Consitutional law assumes that the prerequistes still apply

2020-03-12 16:10:13 UTC  

Unless I'm misunderstanding you.

2020-03-12 16:10:42 UTC  

We're talking about Reagan's statements, and modern Democrat statements.

2020-03-12 16:10:49 UTC  

yes, correct.

2020-03-12 16:10:52 UTC  

And how they're copy-pasted.

2020-03-12 16:11:09 UTC  

I am pointing out that it was a different world with different priorities and a different audience

2020-03-12 16:11:28 UTC  

the democratic party of that era was nothing like the democratic party today

2020-03-12 16:11:43 UTC  

at least everyone acknowledge the bigger threat

2020-03-12 16:11:44 UTC  

Let me spell this out then

2020-03-12 16:11:50 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/678531385123667998/687694351731916822/image0-215.jpg

2020-03-12 16:11:54 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/678531385123667998/687694366189682752/FB_IMG_1584000185906.jpg

2020-03-12 16:12:00 UTC  

reagan was politiking

2020-03-12 16:12:26 UTC  

Do you think that a citizen has to justify utilitarian ownership of a firearm to either sporting or home defense?

2020-03-12 16:12:32 UTC  

offering the dems a bone in the moment that simply allowed him to appear both anti-assault rifle and anti-soviet

2020-03-12 16:12:50 UTC  

each audience heard what they wanted

2020-03-12 16:13:10 UTC  

conservs focused on 'soviet gun'; dems on 'assault-rifle'

2020-03-12 16:13:22 UTC  

absolutely

2020-03-12 16:13:48 UTC  

the citizen should have the right and States should have the right per the constitution

2020-03-12 16:13:48 UTC  

He didn't call it an assault rifle.

2020-03-12 16:13:54 UTC  

but SHOULD != IS

2020-03-12 16:14:12 UTC  

the 'IS' requires concessions for gov to function

2020-03-12 16:14:18 UTC  

from both sides

2020-03-12 16:14:55 UTC  

no, he didn't; but the verbage afterwards implied 'assault-rifle'

2020-03-12 16:15:40 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/678531385123667998/687695312537649201/image0.png

2020-03-12 16:15:46 UTC  

in truth, that attitude is historically incorrect as in the days of the Civil War, private citizens were owners of cannons and other military grade equip

2020-03-12 16:15:54 UTC  

they were even encouraged to do so

2020-03-12 16:16:02 UTC  

Is an ak47 a machine gun?

2020-03-12 16:16:11 UTC  

technically no

2020-03-12 16:16:15 UTC  

colloquially yes