Message from @ManAnimal

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2020-03-12 16:10:12 UTC  

So dismissing my original assertion in favor of Consitutional law assumes that the prerequistes still apply

2020-03-12 16:10:13 UTC  

Unless I'm misunderstanding you.

2020-03-12 16:10:42 UTC  

We're talking about Reagan's statements, and modern Democrat statements.

2020-03-12 16:10:49 UTC  

yes, correct.

2020-03-12 16:10:52 UTC  

And how they're copy-pasted.

2020-03-12 16:11:09 UTC  

I am pointing out that it was a different world with different priorities and a different audience

2020-03-12 16:11:28 UTC  

the democratic party of that era was nothing like the democratic party today

2020-03-12 16:11:43 UTC  

at least everyone acknowledge the bigger threat

2020-03-12 16:11:44 UTC  

Let me spell this out then

2020-03-12 16:11:50 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/678531385123667998/687694351731916822/image0-215.jpg

2020-03-12 16:11:54 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/678531385123667998/687694366189682752/FB_IMG_1584000185906.jpg

2020-03-12 16:12:00 UTC  

reagan was politiking

2020-03-12 16:12:26 UTC  

Do you think that a citizen has to justify utilitarian ownership of a firearm to either sporting or home defense?

2020-03-12 16:12:32 UTC  

offering the dems a bone in the moment that simply allowed him to appear both anti-assault rifle and anti-soviet

2020-03-12 16:12:50 UTC  

each audience heard what they wanted

2020-03-12 16:13:10 UTC  

conservs focused on 'soviet gun'; dems on 'assault-rifle'

2020-03-12 16:13:22 UTC  

absolutely

2020-03-12 16:13:48 UTC  

the citizen should have the right and States should have the right per the constitution

2020-03-12 16:13:48 UTC  

He didn't call it an assault rifle.

2020-03-12 16:13:54 UTC  

but SHOULD != IS

2020-03-12 16:14:12 UTC  

the 'IS' requires concessions for gov to function

2020-03-12 16:14:18 UTC  

from both sides

2020-03-12 16:14:55 UTC  

no, he didn't; but the verbage afterwards implied 'assault-rifle'

2020-03-12 16:15:40 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/678531385123667998/687695312537649201/image0.png

2020-03-12 16:15:46 UTC  

in truth, that attitude is historically incorrect as in the days of the Civil War, private citizens were owners of cannons and other military grade equip

2020-03-12 16:15:54 UTC  

they were even encouraged to do so

2020-03-12 16:16:02 UTC  

Is an ak47 a machine gun?

2020-03-12 16:16:11 UTC  

technically no

2020-03-12 16:16:15 UTC  

colloquially yes

2020-03-12 16:16:17 UTC  

I don't give a metric fuckton of what you stand for, right or left. But if you say you're wanting to ban or restrict the peoples access to arms or ammunition then you're in the "Hanged on live TV." book.

2020-03-12 16:16:38 UTC  

and the collquial definition is the definition democrats understand

2020-03-12 16:16:56 UTC  

i don't speak english to a german and expect them to get my point

2020-03-12 16:16:57 UTC  

So he was using bs Language to ban a firearm he didn't like

2020-03-12 16:17:27 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/678531385123667998/687695762527617096/89607154_113166020299030_6800796528114925568_o.png

2020-03-12 16:17:39 UTC  

Can you explain the difference between machine gun used in that context and assault weapon used today

2020-03-12 16:17:40 UTC  

> Is an ak47 a machine gun?
@RyeNorth No, it's an assault rifle (a military rifle w/ selective fire)

MGs are squad-support weapons, & most of them can *only* do autofire

2020-03-12 16:17:41 UTC  

in essence... but in my view, he 'didn't like it' from the perspective of a grandfather

2020-03-12 16:17:47 UTC  

that never hunted himself

2020-03-12 16:18:22 UTC  

> I don't give a metric fuckton of what you stand for, right or left. But if you say you're wanting to ban or restrict the peoples access to arms or ammunition then you're in the "Hanged on live TV." book.
@Steyr "Thick" Shotgun

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/678531385123667998/687695993218793550/Kek_Pepe_preach_it_meme.jpg

2020-03-12 16:18:41 UTC  

given our state of military alertness that everyone was daily aware of back then, his statement wasn't viewed as such an absolute

2020-03-12 16:18:54 UTC  

people recongized the sentiment behind it