Message from @JustTom
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Actually you underestimating the Navy.
Lob missles. They do have very good anti-ship missiles.
Diplomacy probably always the best option when dealing with Chinese shenanigans
The number of planes, ships, and missiles we can lob at them easily.
It's not about troop strength over there in the overall. It's about the fact that if China actually pushed a naval engagement, we can ping every ship they have, launch fighters, and blow every last one of their ships up within 24 hours. All it would take is someone giving the order.
We have rapid deployment all around the world.
It takes time to mobilize and concentrate your forces dude. By the time the US gain local numerical superiority, the UN would have made an ultimatum/armistice by then.
No dusty, your patriotism is blinding you. The chinese have local force superority in a way the US cant hope to match.
Make no mistake, in total war with all assets, it's probably in the US's advantage.
But locally, in a short war. Or one in which the US is skittish.
Now, if it actually became a land war... that'll take a lot more time to deal with.
However, wars arent local anymore and in a global battle the US cant lose.
It's not exactly the US's edge.
I wouldn't say the Chinese win either. But it wouldn't be a blowout.
Nobody wins a global war on that scale though
99% of the US's military limitation is that we don't just go in and wreck up our enemies. It's because we're always playing the 'good guys', that we don't just bomb our enemy into the ground and be done with it.
Basically we hold back every time we engage in warfare.
Period.
ehhh
Don't get me wrong, that's a good thing, since it limits civilian casualties. But consider this: The last time the US didn't hold back, we had these two little bombs we dropped.
Ask Japan about it.
It also depends on how much President does without congress
I wouldnt say dumping Agent Orange on rando rice farmers was 'holding back'. The main point should be whether US ground troops are allowed to occupy significant land area of enemy territories.
And given how much our tech has improved since then, we could easily wipe out nearly any country on the planet without even going to nukes.
We have too much overwhelming advantage.
In terms of military hardware, US is leagues ahead of anyone else. But one area we are shit at is cyber warfare
It is amazing we didn't have a conquesting president yet.
Occupying land is exhaustive for the one doing the occupying these days
??? Dusty, have you read the report?
this is real
yup
The charts are really confusing but they indicate growing Chinese strength, which is what I'm saying.
Growing yes... but not quite there yet.
With their current economic status, that growth has stalled a bit.
The Rand Corp dropped the ball on this one, but they're clearly rating things as contested.
^ What Feather says is the real kicker. The act of sending in ground troops and occupying a location is what hinders us in every conflict. Especially when we keep playing 'peacekeeper' during our conflicts.
See now parity with the US is very bad
Because this is a defensive war for china, regardless of who ends up starting it
I wouldn't want to use "offensive" or "defensive" with respect to the South China Sea. But geographically, they are closer.