Message from @Dusty Morgan

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2018-11-05 20:26:19 UTC  

US cant fire on a smaller weaker ship without looking aggressive and it allows the chinese to do whatever they want, short of firing on the US

2018-11-05 20:26:31 UTC  

We would decimate their navy in matter of weeks to be honest.

2018-11-05 20:26:35 UTC  

If they tried.

2018-11-05 20:26:40 UTC  

Then their islands they made would fall.

2018-11-05 20:26:44 UTC  

Weeks. LOL

2018-11-05 20:26:45 UTC  

We have a system in place for how many people we can let in for immigration including asylum seekers, why should someone get to cut the line if they are on this side of the hemisphere

2018-11-05 20:26:45 UTC  

It's hard to say Dusty.

2018-11-05 20:26:57 UTC  

Look at our aircraft carriers.

2018-11-05 20:27:06 UTC  

Look at the number of fighter jets and bombers.

2018-11-05 20:27:10 UTC  

Look at the number of subs.

2018-11-05 20:27:11 UTC  

Local troop strength isn't as lopsided as people think. Particularly in local Chinese Waters.

2018-11-05 20:27:14 UTC  

Look at the number of ships.

2018-11-05 20:27:24 UTC  

Troops don't matter in the water.

2018-11-05 20:27:27 UTC  

The chinese navy is very dangerous inbetween their coast and the Philippines

2018-11-05 20:27:38 UTC  

Yes, but most of those boats and people are somewhere else.

2018-11-05 20:27:40 UTC  

Theyll have the edge in ships, planes, and missiles they can lob at the area

2018-11-05 20:27:44 UTC  

What are they going to do, stand on the shore and yell at us?

2018-11-05 20:27:56 UTC  

Actually you underestimating the Navy.

2018-11-05 20:27:59 UTC  

Lob missles. They do have very good anti-ship missiles.

2018-11-05 20:28:00 UTC  

Diplomacy probably always the best option when dealing with Chinese shenanigans

2018-11-05 20:28:06 UTC  

The number of planes, ships, and missiles we can lob at them easily.

2018-11-05 20:28:12 UTC  

It's not about troop strength over there in the overall. It's about the fact that if China actually pushed a naval engagement, we can ping every ship they have, launch fighters, and blow every last one of their ships up within 24 hours. All it would take is someone giving the order.

2018-11-05 20:28:16 UTC  

We have rapid deployment all around the world.

2018-11-05 20:28:24 UTC  

It takes time to mobilize and concentrate your forces dude. By the time the US gain local numerical superiority, the UN would have made an ultimatum/armistice by then.

2018-11-05 20:28:28 UTC  

No dusty, your patriotism is blinding you. The chinese have local force superority in a way the US cant hope to match.

2018-11-05 20:28:31 UTC  

Make no mistake, in total war with all assets, it's probably in the US's advantage.

2018-11-05 20:28:47 UTC  

But locally, in a short war. Or one in which the US is skittish.

2018-11-05 20:28:50 UTC  

Now, if it actually became a land war... that'll take a lot more time to deal with.

2018-11-05 20:28:55 UTC  

However, wars arent local anymore and in a global battle the US cant lose.

2018-11-05 20:28:57 UTC  

It's not exactly the US's edge.

2018-11-05 20:29:13 UTC  

I wouldn't say the Chinese win either. But it wouldn't be a blowout.

2018-11-05 20:29:22 UTC  

Nobody wins a global war on that scale though

2018-11-05 20:29:37 UTC  

99% of the US's military limitation is that we don't just go in and wreck up our enemies. It's because we're always playing the 'good guys', that we don't just bomb our enemy into the ground and be done with it.

2018-11-05 20:29:51 UTC  

Basically we hold back every time we engage in warfare.

2018-11-05 20:29:52 UTC  

Period.

2018-11-05 20:30:30 UTC  

ehhh

2018-11-05 20:31:06 UTC  

Don't get me wrong, that's a good thing, since it limits civilian casualties. But consider this: The last time the US didn't hold back, we had these two little bombs we dropped.

2018-11-05 20:31:19 UTC  

Ask Japan about it.

2018-11-05 20:31:37 UTC  

It also depends on how much President does without congress

2018-11-05 20:32:01 UTC  

I wouldnt say dumping Agent Orange on rando rice farmers was 'holding back'. The main point should be whether US ground troops are allowed to occupy significant land area of enemy territories.