then again, the idea that a singular being can be made of billions of independent organisms that think they are one really does blow my mind

@tritrium death is the state of stagnation

The argument of when life begins is stupid, you are still killing the baby. It may not be a baby yet but it dosn't matter

Putin wants Trump out I guess

Does umbillical cord make both creatures count as one lifeform?

What about siamese twins then?

@Existence is identity

are we real when are we all is the agreement of a billion cells communicating to each other via electrical signals?

I have no idea what that is referring to

i mean i really think that to make pluripotent and all that you need to start at ESCs

@FrostyCrits abortion is ok because philosophy is for rational beings

Vc?

Its not stupid frosty, a baby doesnt even have a functioning heart untill your almost 2 months pregnant

hence its not alive yet

@Existence is identity So you condone murder... nice one

But it's GOING to be alive.

@FrostyCrits so you eat animals which is what a underdeveloped baby is

By your definition not mine.

its not a definition

its a scientific fact

Okay but we defibrillate people.

@Existence is identity That makes no sense at all

Seems inconsistent and based on values which law should not be based on personal values because not everyone has the same values

We defibrillate the shit out of people.

yeah and sometimes they die

@Misomania it's making me feel cold

@FrostyCrits vc?

... Yeah so give em a chance, ay?

more often than not i've probably ingested all of that

@Existence is identity whats vc?

thanks for it by the way i could use it as a KQ in the future

@FrostyCrits voice chat

the hek293 stuff? or the likelyhood that what we aren't allowed to see is likely MUCH worse? @R9b1t

@R9b1t what do you mean you think that?

I dont see how you can justify forcing someone to have a baby

@Existence is identity no thanks

>eating undeveloped baby is same as eating animals
Daam what kind of logic is that?
Cannibalism is apparently ok

At best you can encourage people to be sensible and think of consequences of their actions.

"Since iPSCs can be derived directly from adult tissues, they not only bypass the need for embryos, but can be made in a patient-matched manner, which means that each individual could have their own pluripotent stem cell line. These unlimited supplies of autologous cells could be used to generate transplants without the risk of immune rejection. While the iPSC technology has not yet advanced to a stage where therapeutic transplants have been deemed safe, iPSCs are readily being used in personalized drug discovery efforts and understanding the patient-specific basis of disease.[5]"

But that doesnt mean you should be able to abort a baby thats like 7 month in

that kind of decision needs to be made WAY earlier then that.