https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2018/06/07/how-are-nato-members-doing-on-reaching-defense-spending-goals/

The obligation is to spend 2% of budget on military

Yes

Eu army is military

So how is that braking it ?

"I want to build a real security dialogue with Russia, which is a country I respect, a European country - but we must have a Europe that can defend itself on its own without relying only on the United States."

Speaking about cyber security, he also said: "We have to protect ourselves with respect to China, Russia and even the United States of America."

Said Macron

EU army would devert funds from NATO participating forces

How ?

Khan thats nonsense

There isnt any two army budgets ?

Each member has one army

NATO can call up German Paratroopers and Alpine Troopers to help in Afganstan, the EU forces wouldn't be avalible for NATO operations since they are at the beck and call of the EU concuil first and foremost

Ok then why emphasize an EU army?

if this does nothing but enhance NATO why refer to it as something else?

Khan thats not how nato works tho

😔

That is how NATO works

Blackhawk because sometimes eu wants other thing then usa

I know because I did joint ops in the US Army with NATO partners

I dont remember usa dealing with refugee crysis for example

Bruno Le Maire came out in support for French President Emmanuel Macron’s call for a “real European army” but suggested Brussels should go one further and establish itself as an “empire”. Mr Le Maire made the shock admission after the US President branded his French counterpart’s comments “very insulting” and suggested EU countries should instead focus on living up to their Nato spending commitments. "it's about Europe having to become a kind of Empire, as China is. And how the US is," the French finance minister told the Handelsblatt newspaper.

Now thats just french memer idont care about him (the empire guy)

NATO cant stop the refugee crisis unless its an actual attack on a nation or peacekeeping is required

But eu army brakes bo rule in nato

hes the minister of finance in Macron's government

As far as i can see

Yeah minister of finance doesnt speak for eu

If establishing an EU army mean all the NATO members increasing their military budget, I would be happy

Exactly

Missdanger

The US Air Force has been helping our NATO allies with the Migrent Crisis, but we are not putting rifles in windows since the Migrent Crisis isn't that kind of operation

Yep so eu makes their own army to deal with eu interest operations

Makes sense to me from geopolitical view

Remember when this was a conspiracy theory?

That the idea the EU wanted their own army was crazy?

I dont know eu forces were making drills togather since forever

Right now NATO asks each other for help... A EU army would be at the beck and call of the EU not the national tax payers

The question is how would the central coand work

Whih we dont know yet

The main issue is that there is no way for people to hold the EU to account