Which meets the nato targets better no ?

And yeah it makes sense geopoliticaly

To have eu army

No, what they want is to leave NATO

and have an EU army in place of it

Ofc the organization will probably be shit

Blackhawk nobody said that

Thats made up claim

No, because the EU army will cut NATO member spending on NATO goals

Khan what ?

What nato goals ?

Only obligation i know of is invest 2% of budget into your own army

How will eu army negate that ?

Right now EU NATO member aren't meeting spending goals for NATO plans, the EU army would take money away from National Forces to participate for NATO

What plans ?

Again

That doesnt make any sense

Readyness plans,

No such plans exist

I told you

https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2018/06/07/how-are-nato-members-doing-on-reaching-defense-spending-goals/

The obligation is to spend 2% of budget on military

Yes

Eu army is military

So how is that braking it ?

"I want to build a real security dialogue with Russia, which is a country I respect, a European country - but we must have a Europe that can defend itself on its own without relying only on the United States."

Speaking about cyber security, he also said: "We have to protect ourselves with respect to China, Russia and even the United States of America."

Said Macron

EU army would devert funds from NATO participating forces

How ?

Khan thats nonsense

There isnt any two army budgets ?

Each member has one army

NATO can call up German Paratroopers and Alpine Troopers to help in Afganstan, the EU forces wouldn't be avalible for NATO operations since they are at the beck and call of the EU concuil first and foremost

Ok then why emphasize an EU army?

if this does nothing but enhance NATO why refer to it as something else?

Khan thats not how nato works tho

😔

That is how NATO works

Blackhawk because sometimes eu wants other thing then usa

I know because I did joint ops in the US Army with NATO partners

I dont remember usa dealing with refugee crysis for example