Then the starvation starts

```
>capitalism: workers don't have means of production
>communism: workers still don't have means of production + starve
```

If your country has no rich to steal from there will be mass starvation day 1

I just broke communism

Breaking news

Same idea spoken in different languages.

Communism applied to reality works via forced planning of the economy. As long as your population and surrounding tech doesn't change much, you can plan for enough agricultural production to keep the population afloat and you're okay (provided no disasters happen). Having (or not having) rich people is irrelevant, since they're going to bail first thing at the faint mention of a communist takeover

The main point of commies is 'GIVE THE WORKERS THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION'
But actually the state takes the means of production <:Jerry:501822402401927188> <:ohno:431952334755594240>

So starving on day 1 means either atrocious planning, or a country overpopulated for the amount of agriculture it has (which is never the case for communist countries today, to my knowledge)

You mean give my abuela who barely knows shit about logistics and distribution a say in how Walmart stocks their store with food? Yeah get ready for mass starvation boiz

No, I mean actual card systems

BREAKING NEWS FROM BLYATISTAN: Russia is building a CHURCH ARMY ( no jk)

Since you know there won't be a Walmart during communism

“Cardmunism”

Obvious

Goodbye convenience of locally warehoused food

https://youtu.be/OYVZnq6hwy0

Look, I'm not saying communism is a good system or anything, I just mean that running it in a way that people starve right out of the gates is pretty retarded

NOTICE ME SENPAI

It’s hard to run it good and is always a retarded system

It's impossible to run it good

It's not adaptive enough to run good

You can run a planned economy if you know you're headed into a war or something of the like, and it's more efficient than most other economic models for it

And that's about the only case in which it exceeds

There’s a difference between the state subsidizing the best manufacturing your nation has to offer through subsidies and call to action, and flat out owning the manufacturing

Sure is

I love how accurate this is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl5UH6EZXIM

Ffs I lost my fucking wallet in the damn train

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/170375269218123776/512380888152014869/9uNW5_D6bRqDyFuiQhDDAJxJn3gIrP98OlQ9A2yOgDU.jpg

call the train agency

I did

Now I just have to do 26 more minutes of train

And then come back with another 26 mi

And prove my identity to get my wallet back knowing that my identity card is in it <:ohno:431952334755594240>

@JohnOakman On the topic of that church, yeah, the government decided that instead of ideological bankruptcy, it would adopt Orthodoxy as its main guideline again, so this now happens.
Although the army is probably one of the few places that would benefit from it. Hell, it would benefit from any kind of moral guidance

@Zeppelin agreed

Europe should go back to its roots a bit

The moral values dictated by catholicism is still valuable.

It's Europe's values

Now the values are dictated by globalism.

Man, I don't know if shagging little boys is a good value

Being a decent human beats being a good believer by a mile