Message from @paradigm

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2018-11-23 19:08:25 UTC  

because congress is granted the authority to create laws

2018-11-23 19:08:38 UTC  

murder is not "legal federally"
in cases where The United States has police power, murder is illegal
i.e. Wash DC, federal land, military bases, etc.

2018-11-23 19:08:59 UTC  

as long as it doesnt break a constitutional right then they can do it

2018-11-23 19:09:11 UTC  

And what part of the Constitution gives them police power?

2018-11-23 19:09:16 UTC  

the federal murder laws do not apply within the territory of any State
unless there is some jurisdictional vector

2018-11-23 19:09:22 UTC  

Is it me, does Markiplier starting to look like a Guru?

2018-11-23 19:09:27 UTC  

FBI is a thing

2018-11-23 19:09:36 UTC  

the Constitutional grants the police power to the States @Bookworm

2018-11-23 19:10:07 UTC  

Then the federal government has no authority to police.

2018-11-23 19:10:14 UTC  

DC

2018-11-23 19:10:26 UTC  

parks, military bases, embassies

2018-11-23 19:10:28 UTC  

etc.

2018-11-23 19:10:30 UTC  

It does, according to the executive branch clause

2018-11-23 19:10:39 UTC  

Do you have a link, Codes?

2018-11-23 19:10:45 UTC  

They may enforce federal law

2018-11-23 19:11:03 UTC  

is this actually difficult to understand?

2018-11-23 19:11:18 UTC  

does Rhode Island have jursidiction in New York?

2018-11-23 19:11:23 UTC  

of course not

2018-11-23 19:11:38 UTC  

the feds have primary jurisdiction in their own territory

2018-11-23 19:11:52 UTC  

Except the right to police is granted to the states, you said.

2018-11-23 19:11:59 UTC  

yeah

2018-11-23 19:12:02 UTC  

DC is not a state

2018-11-23 19:12:04 UTC  

The FBI does not police people

2018-11-23 19:12:10 UTC  

military bases are not a state

2018-11-23 19:12:12 UTC  

They investigate federal crimes

2018-11-23 19:12:15 UTC  

yes

2018-11-23 19:12:16 UTC  

Define policing

2018-11-23 19:12:40 UTC  

If they investigate and take into custody suspected criminals for prosecution, how is that not policing?

2018-11-23 19:12:58 UTC  

federal crimes are enabled by specific authority
contained in the constitution (Interstate Commerce Clause, for the most part)
or in laws enabled by treaty

2018-11-23 19:13:47 UTC  

"taking into custody" is policing

2018-11-23 19:14:00 UTC  

and the feds do so in cases where they have jurisdiction

2018-11-23 19:14:40 UTC  

murder is a state crime, and does not grant federal jurisdiction

2018-11-23 19:18:31 UTC  

So ultimately there is federal authority to police, but it is limmitted

2018-11-23 19:20:28 UTC  

yes, of course

2018-11-23 19:20:56 UTC  

hence federal prisons holding millions of inmates

2018-11-23 19:21:09 UTC  

or hundreds of thousands, or whatever it is

2018-11-23 19:21:13 UTC  

Feds often work closesly with states either way anyway from what I understand

2018-11-23 19:21:18 UTC  

indeed

2018-11-23 19:21:20 UTC  

The federal government has the right to police their own laws. Remember the FBI was borne of the effort to enforce Prohibition.