"its her fault"

at what point is it not her fault

Swap the genders in the story and if it sounds different to you because the person now has a penis, it is YOU who has a double standard.

Women are already at a decisive advantage in relationships. They can destroy a man in hundred ways.

i believe the point is not that she is at fault for being abused, she is at fault for not making the choice to leave.

If a woman tells you a sob story, you should ask:

"Why didn't you act like an adult and dealt with it?"

You will invariably hear some excuse.

How do you "DEALT" with it?

THE WAY ADULTS DEAL WITH THEIR FUCKING PROBLEMS.

They don't blame them on others.

And that is by walking away got it

YES

That can be one solution.

And what if they love them?

Among the literal HUNDREDS women have now.

why love someone who hurts you?

IDK people are crazy

yes

i believe that was undeads point

Guys are the same, they get abused by women and stay together

There's at least two arguments, while yes woman do get benefits not all woman are getting them and hell some are probably ignorant than others. And while yes there's times a victim should have acted. However its not as simple as you may think it could be at times. And if there's evidence I think it should be with the courts but if its way long in time then we can't help that victim now.

I am sick of women's portrayal as passive damsels in distress.

@Black cat ^

Yeah @Black cat That is literally my argument

not undeads

Stop treating women like children.

Just fucking listen to yourself:

If you swapped the woman with a child, your story would still make sense.

If you swapped the woman with a man, people would laugh at you.

actually code's, you have only been arguing half of that.

at least, you have only been presenting the one side

undead has been presenting the other

and together, have been screaming at each-other while not getting it

I have been presenting both from the begining

You just havnt been here that long

Undead you can agree that not all victims can simply react on the spot

No, you have thrown bullshit at me like calling me a woman hater.

That's not an argument.

Yeah cause I ask youd, do we blame male abusers

and you didnt respond

SO my only take on it is, that you think we shouldnt

Racist!

Bigot!