you shouldn't. but faning the flames just leads to bs

I don't use outright ad hominem very often.

That has literally been you this whole time

"Simp"

anyway this exact type of problem is why i say society, specifically the community they live in, should be the one to help people. Because they are best to know who really deserves help and to what degree.

I have been called an "asshole" by you, for not immediately replying to a point you made, I have been ridiculed, straw manned and labeled a woman hater by you.

"memes about me being some male feminist"

At this point, you deserve a few good ad hominem.

You reap what you sow. I will try to not initiate these kind of things, but I am sure as hell not above returning kind in kind.

there are women who use abusive relationships for pity points. Usually in that case they are mutually abusive and the question of "who started it" got lost to time.

neighbors and friends would know best if that is the situation

You did intiate it, I asked, "at what point do we blame abusers"

and then you went off

or if its a situation of a man who fell on hard times and turned to vices

but hey

Guess its my fault

I went off? Yes, I went off with giving you a three page response.

Are you fucking serious?

"There's at least two arguments, while yes woman do get benefits not all woman are getting them and hell some are probably ignorant than others. And while yes there's times a victim should have acted. However its not as simple as you may think it could be at times. And if there's evidence I think it should be with the courts but if its way long in time then we can't help that victim now."

^

Undead would also agree with my statement. I think.

Codes, I'll blame your behavior on your age or a mental condition - one of which might be having been raised by a single mother.

now we are having an argument about the argument

You shouldn't push me too far, though.

Well, from what I have been getting he wouldnt

I will only remain civilized so long.

lets get one more level of inception in this bitch and have an argument about the argument over the argument

@Grenade123 I'm not sure what's next. Hell the matrix could open up

reality's konami code

Ikr

Single motherhood is a cancer and it will take more than a few hours on Discord to undo the brainwashing that leaves your head in a mushy sauce of victimhood and excuses for inaction.

Actually I never once said that

but hey, I respect my single mother

Seriously, I have never met such a limp wristed, infantilized, unaccountable generation.

So I guess i think single parent households are a good thing

That must be my argument

saying "single motherhood is a cancer" =/= "single mothers are cancer"

They are. Particularly single FATHER households

We see how on average single mothers children turn out

In his case it is, grenade

no