@Grenade123 its her choice to keep it, yes.

Take this line and use it with your single mom next time.

The response will be revealing, I promise.

Actually undead

I would tell a women the same thing

BUt you are not.

Dont have sex

becuase there are no women here

Okay so the best way I'm describing is it trying to clean shit but there's more shit still coming in

OMG MIND BLOWN

Instead you sit here and argue for 7 fucking hours why your mom had no responsibility.

okay, perhaps i'm a bit presumptuous, but i don't see leaving a child on the street after being born in a dumpster as a good thing.

Huh?

and both parents are responsible at that point

Yes, but the woman has a few dozen choices to abandon the child.

The father has ONE choice: pay up.

then dont have sex

Even if he's sperm jacked.

Tell that to Boris Becker, Codes.

@Cody well i dont but how would it change anything? Im not choosing to have a child by having sex

We can agree that leaving behind a child is fucked up

Sex=Consent to baby

Codes, you are so good at holding adults accountable.

Why are you so utterly unable to apply the same reasoning to single moms?

That simple

Cause I do not believe that ALL SINGLE MOTHERS are to blame

So you are comfortable with forcing women to have a baby for everytime they have sex, maybe using artificial insemination of it didnt work out naturaly?

sure most could be

@Cody

BUT NOT ALL

I mean, look at you: you fire back these responses in rapid succession, because who you assume on the other line of Discord is an adult male.

See how easy it is?

a child containing your DNA is your responsibility, If you didn't want that risk, you shouldn't have had sex. You can pass off that responsibility to someone else but if no one will take it, it is still stuck with you. You don't get to use the state to make me pay for a child containing YOUR dna just because you didn't like that your gamble didn't pay off.

But, we still have to spend $4 billion on single moms like yours.

Where are the $4 billion for men if women and men are adults?

Why do we constantly have to pay up for women's bad choices?

i didn't have sex, i didn't take the gamble.

Why can't we hold women responsible for their choices?

this applies to both parents

@Redneo You clearly missed the point, Sex=Reproduction, therefor you are consenting to the chance that you create offspring by fucking

maybe artificial insemanition youll say is different, if sex is consent to having a baby that is a distinction that doesnt matter. @Cody

they can argue over who takes full responsibility all fucking day, but if that child dies on the street, i'm charging both of you with murder.