Message from @Justin Burger (Major-GA)
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When lorax was right the whole time.
i didnt care enough to read through all of it
but
alrighty
wtf is a CivNat
Civic Nationalist
"replacement is fine, as long as it's legal"
It means you care more about the country than you do the nation.
Constitutional Conservative, but ok.
"He was an asshole before"
Why, because I called you out on your bullshit? Sounds like someone has a case of butthurt.
You can't call someone out on bullshit, when it wasnt bullshit, and all you did was give Petty child insults when you get proved wrong.
Yea I really don't care. It's not "replacement." If someone moves here legally and becomes a citizen, that is not a bad thing. I reject Ethno-Nationalism and the idea that race means anything at all.
Look out guys, it's one of those right wingers
This dude said the Nazis were Fascists
Then he said they were Socialists
And saying "ok Libtard" isn't really a childish insult. It's a meme.
I explained what socialism is and you still cling to the notion that it's synonymous with marxism
I'm not talking about Marxism
So you are saying fascists weren't centrally planned protectionistics with a welfare state and free healthcare?
That's what Italy was.
But I doubt you know what a syndicalist is.
I'm not incredibly educated of fascist Italy but weren't they a corporatist economy?
Fascism was founded during World War I by Italian national syndicalists who drew upon both left-wing organizational tactics and right-wing political views.
I'm saying that's not what Nazi Germany was.
Yes, I'm well aware of what Syndicalism is. They didn't have that in Nazi Germany either. The government in Nazi Germany essentially Nationalized certain industries in the country. Fascism has State industry but it retains private industry too.
Mussolini's Italy was literally called the Italian socialist republic.
National Socialism was based more around Marxism than it was Fascism
And North Korea is called the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. That doesn't mean that's what it was.
For the umpteenth time, socialism isn't fucking marxism you belligerent retard
the "fascist negations": anti-liberalism, anti-communism, and anti-conservatism;
"fascist goals": the creation of a nationalist dictatorship to regulate economic structure and to transform social relations within a modern, self-determined culture, and the expansion of the nation into an empire; and
"fascist style": a political aesthetic of romantic symbolism, mass mobilization, a positive view of violence, and promotion of masculinity, youth, and charismatic authoritarian leadership
Where do I keep implying it was Marxism?
Fascism presented itself as a third position,alternative to both international socialism and free market capitalism.While fascism opposed marxist socialism, it sometimes regarded itself as a type of nationalist "socialism" to highlight their commitment to national solidarity and unity.Fascists opposed international free market capitalism, but supported a type of productive capitalism. Economic self-sufficiency socialism, known as autarky, was a major goal of most fascist governments.
Fascism condemned what it viewed as widespread character traits that it associated as the typical bourgeois mentality that it opposed, such as materialism, crassness, cowardice, inability to comprehend the heroic ideal of the fascist "warrior"; and associations with liberalism, individualism and parliamentarianism.
"national socialism was based more around marxism than fascism" direct quote of yours buddy
While fascism denounced the mainstream internationalist and Marxist socialisms, it claimed to economically represent a type of nationalist productivist socialism that while condemning parasitical capitalism.
While fascism accepted the importance of material wealth and power, it condemned materialism which identified as being present in both communism and capitalism and criticized materialism for lacking acknowledgement of the role of the spirit. In particular, fascists criticized capitalism not because of its competitive nature nor support of private property, which fascists supported—but due to its materialism, individualism, alleged bourgeois decadence and alleged indifference to the nation.fascism denounced Marxism for its advocacy of materialist internationalist class identity, which fascists regarded as an attack upon the emotional and spiritual bonds of the nation and a threat to the achievement of genuine national solidarity
I didn't call it Marxism I said it was based on it. Marxism is based around redistribution of wealth, a welfare State, and having the State control wealth and industry. The NSDAP platform called for redistribution of wealth and Nationalizing industry.
No it didn't
faced with the mass unemployment and poverty of the Great Depression, the Nazis found it necessary to set up charitable institutions to help Germans in order to maintain popular support, while arguing that this represented "self-help" and not indiscriminate charity or universal social welfare. Thus, Nazi programs such as the Winter Relief of the German People and the broader National Socialist People's Welfare (NSV) were organized as quasi-private institutions, officially relying on private donations from Germans to help others of their race—