Message from @Justin Burger (Major-GA)

Discord ID: 624154106231259137


2019-09-19 07:57:40 UTC  

When lorax was right the whole time.

2019-09-19 07:57:46 UTC  

i didnt care enough to read through all of it

2019-09-19 07:57:49 UTC  

but

2019-09-19 07:57:57 UTC  

alrighty

2019-09-19 07:58:09 UTC  

wtf is a CivNat

2019-09-19 07:58:43 UTC  

Civic Nationalist

2019-09-19 07:59:08 UTC  

"replacement is fine, as long as it's legal"

2019-09-19 07:59:12 UTC  

It means you care more about the country than you do the nation.

2019-09-19 08:01:51 UTC  

Constitutional Conservative, but ok.
"He was an asshole before"
Why, because I called you out on your bullshit? Sounds like someone has a case of butthurt.

2019-09-19 08:02:31 UTC  

You can't call someone out on bullshit, when it wasnt bullshit, and all you did was give Petty child insults when you get proved wrong.

2019-09-19 08:02:33 UTC  

Yea I really don't care. It's not "replacement." If someone moves here legally and becomes a citizen, that is not a bad thing. I reject Ethno-Nationalism and the idea that race means anything at all.

2019-09-19 08:02:36 UTC  

Look out guys, it's one of those right wingers

2019-09-19 08:02:41 UTC  

This dude said the Nazis were Fascists

2019-09-19 08:02:46 UTC  

Then he said they were Socialists

2019-09-19 08:03:09 UTC  

And saying "ok Libtard" isn't really a childish insult. It's a meme.

2019-09-19 08:03:22 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490588932992532500/624153550758346777/yes..png

2019-09-19 08:03:58 UTC  

I explained what socialism is and you still cling to the notion that it's synonymous with marxism

2019-09-19 08:04:17 UTC  

I'm not talking about Marxism

2019-09-19 08:04:27 UTC  

So you are saying fascists weren't centrally planned protectionistics with a welfare state and free healthcare?

2019-09-19 08:04:36 UTC  

That's what Italy was.

2019-09-19 08:05:35 UTC  

Fascism was literally founded by syndicalists.

2019-09-19 08:05:45 UTC  

But I doubt you know what a syndicalist is.

2019-09-19 08:05:48 UTC  

I'm not incredibly educated of fascist Italy but weren't they a corporatist economy?

2019-09-19 08:06:22 UTC  

Fascism was founded during World War I by Italian national syndicalists who drew upon both left-wing organizational tactics and right-wing political views.

2019-09-19 08:07:08 UTC  

I'm saying that's not what Nazi Germany was.
Yes, I'm well aware of what Syndicalism is. They didn't have that in Nazi Germany either. The government in Nazi Germany essentially Nationalized certain industries in the country. Fascism has State industry but it retains private industry too.

2019-09-19 08:07:44 UTC  

Mussolini's Italy was literally called the Italian socialist republic.

2019-09-19 08:07:49 UTC  

National Socialism was based more around Marxism than it was Fascism

2019-09-19 08:08:11 UTC  

And North Korea is called the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. That doesn't mean that's what it was.

2019-09-19 08:09:06 UTC  

For the umpteenth time, socialism isn't fucking marxism you belligerent retard

2019-09-19 08:09:23 UTC  

the "fascist negations": anti-liberalism, anti-communism, and anti-conservatism;

"fascist goals": the creation of a nationalist dictatorship to regulate economic structure and to transform social relations within a modern, self-determined culture, and the expansion of the nation into an empire; and

"fascist style": a political aesthetic of romantic symbolism, mass mobilization, a positive view of violence, and promotion of masculinity, youth, and charismatic authoritarian leadership

2019-09-19 08:10:16 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490588932992532500/624155287309254656/1e357febeeb138a7eb42aedb4e399b678cca241d36946ae865c288a83ebcfe3c.png

2019-09-19 08:13:11 UTC  

Where do I keep implying it was Marxism?

2019-09-19 08:13:16 UTC  

Fascism presented itself as a third position,alternative to both international socialism and free market capitalism.While fascism opposed marxist socialism, it sometimes regarded itself as a type of nationalist "socialism" to highlight their commitment to national solidarity and unity.Fascists opposed international free market capitalism, but supported a type of productive capitalism. Economic self-sufficiency socialism, known as autarky, was a major goal of most fascist governments.

2019-09-19 08:14:28 UTC  

Fascism condemned what it viewed as widespread character traits that it associated as the typical bourgeois mentality that it opposed, such as materialism, crassness, cowardice, inability to comprehend the heroic ideal of the fascist "warrior"; and associations with liberalism, individualism and parliamentarianism.

2019-09-19 08:14:55 UTC  

"national socialism was based more around marxism than fascism" direct quote of yours buddy

2019-09-19 08:15:20 UTC  

While fascism denounced the mainstream internationalist and Marxist socialisms, it claimed to economically represent a type of nationalist productivist socialism that while condemning parasitical capitalism.

2019-09-19 08:16:45 UTC  

While fascism accepted the importance of material wealth and power, it condemned materialism which identified as being present in both communism and capitalism and criticized materialism for lacking acknowledgement of the role of the spirit. In particular, fascists criticized capitalism not because of its competitive nature nor support of private property, which fascists supported—but due to its materialism, individualism, alleged bourgeois decadence and alleged indifference to the nation.fascism denounced Marxism for its advocacy of materialist internationalist class identity, which fascists regarded as an attack upon the emotional and spiritual bonds of the nation and a threat to the achievement of genuine national solidarity

2019-09-19 08:17:51 UTC  

I didn't call it Marxism I said it was based on it. Marxism is based around redistribution of wealth, a welfare State, and having the State control wealth and industry. The NSDAP platform called for redistribution of wealth and Nationalizing industry.

2019-09-19 08:19:32 UTC  

No it didn't

2019-09-19 08:19:59 UTC  

?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490588932992532500/624157733050122260/0ce1727c45e220ac13ff50f5fe40518e.png

2019-09-19 08:20:43 UTC  

faced with the mass unemployment and poverty of the Great Depression, the Nazis found it necessary to set up charitable institutions to help Germans in order to maintain popular support, while arguing that this represented "self-help" and not indiscriminate charity or universal social welfare. Thus, Nazi programs such as the Winter Relief of the German People and the broader National Socialist People's Welfare (NSV) were organized as quasi-private institutions, officially relying on private donations from Germans to help others of their race—