well, a freer market is freer of force

Exactly

you didn't have that choice

Forced to use a certain area of the market because all competition has been wiped out, is not a free market.

Mind blown?

Lol

well, nobody is forced to engage in commerce

wal mart circa 2000

(except when they are, but that's not so much what you mean)

The market assigns a value to companies

Man must produce to earn wealth and trade

anyway

this is all stupid

yeah

you assume that a proper free market was on the table as an option

Anti competition laws are force

And anti property

people think capitalism is mercantilism cuz they romanticize it

I would maybe say that there was a freer option, but Tucker isn't "dumb" for thinking that's not the case.

No Tucker said capitalism was helped by holding it back

you can't honestly tell me that you have conducted a thorough analysis of the political situation TR inherited, and _completely ruled out the possibility that a restriction was necessary_

you are basically just assuming that, in the real political situation of the time, you could make the market permanently freer and not be undercut by the next president

which I think needs more proof than Tucker's assertion

Is this any more of a contradiction than socialism, in Marx's own words, needing to come from a place of the wealth of capitalism before becoming "true"?

without capitalism, there are no industrial workers

Socialism is communism but not communism yet

without industrial workers, there is no socialism!

...

anyway screw this

MRRA is either trolling, or is too stupid to conceptualize anything more complex than sheer adherence to an ideology

*communisim hasn't really been tried yet*

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and of course, willing to call people stupid for having ideas he doesn't understand

I mean I challenged ruckas opinion, which he has the right to. but its my opinion to say its shit.

@xorgy In what way?

How do you help capitalism by holding it back?

What Tucker said was horribly phrased

well I dont have time to get into it, but restrictions and regulations do help the market to keep things at the upper echelon fair. at the supply and demand level, which is the backbone, that doesn't need restrictions or regulations. Which is why sugar taxes and not having 44oz fountain sodas is retarded in blue states

The market not capitalism

But thats another debate

@zero_consequences