Message from @Bookworm

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2018-12-04 04:15:22 UTC  

And that's democracy.

2018-12-04 04:15:40 UTC  

Even though the churches technically not allowed to lobby, they are allowed too.

2018-12-04 04:15:48 UTC  

"We want this thing, we'll vote for it. Oh, look, enough people voted for the thing."

2018-12-04 04:15:57 UTC  

Religion is an idea like all other ideas, and people have the right to follow it and espouse it as any other idea

2018-12-04 04:16:14 UTC  

I disagree

2018-12-04 04:16:26 UTC  

and we should look at "Religion" and compare them

2018-12-04 04:16:27 UTC  

So you what happens if a religion gets majority and uses its majority to abolish the constitution and puts in religious rule?

2018-12-04 04:16:36 UTC  

Welcome to democracy!

2018-12-04 04:16:44 UTC  

That is just it.

2018-12-04 04:17:08 UTC  

UNITED STATES isn't a DEMOCRACY, it is a constitutional republic.

2018-12-04 04:17:29 UTC  

Whose constitution is based off of systems of editing that rely on democratic processes.

2018-12-04 04:17:29 UTC  

That’s the thing; if the majority of the population gets behind any idea, they can pass an amendment

2018-12-04 04:17:34 UTC  

All democracies have a tendacy to become tyrannical, that is why teh founding fathers made us a constitutional republic.

2018-12-04 04:17:38 UTC  

As our Republican constitution allows

2018-12-04 04:17:40 UTC  

So, like you said, anything can change with enough democratic support.

2018-12-04 04:18:02 UTC  

If you don't like it, pass an amendment that doesn't allow any more amendments.

2018-12-04 04:18:08 UTC  

The government doesn't have the right to subvert the constitution.

2018-12-04 04:18:14 UTC  

I’m not even religious myself but I find that logic lacking

2018-12-04 04:18:15 UTC  

Dusty, you must not be aware that a republic is a representative government.

2018-12-04 04:18:15 UTC  

Uh...yes it does.

2018-12-04 04:18:17 UTC  

That's the point.

2018-12-04 04:18:18 UTC  

Our rights are inherited.

2018-12-04 04:18:28 UTC  

Not a privileged granted by the government or a service.

2018-12-04 04:18:41 UTC  

Then how are they so easily taken from you by them?

2018-12-04 04:18:45 UTC  

Amendments are literally subversions of the constitution

2018-12-04 04:18:53 UTC  

^^^

2018-12-04 04:18:59 UTC  

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2018-12-04 04:19:06 UTC  

The constitution keeps the fucking government in check.

2018-12-04 04:19:08 UTC  

Not the citizens.

2018-12-04 04:19:09 UTC  

They are privileges. You likely have no inherent authority or right to the things you're thinking of when you say 'right'.

2018-12-04 04:19:24 UTC  

Well, then, it was a bad idea to let the government change the constitution, wasn't it, Dusty?

2018-12-04 04:19:28 UTC  

Ugh... I give up, please, just please look up the constitution.

2018-12-04 04:19:31 UTC  

PLease read it.

2018-12-04 04:19:34 UTC  

PLease take the time to understand it.

2018-12-04 04:19:49 UTC  

It isn't there for the government to control the citizens.

2018-12-04 04:19:50 UTC  

The founding fathers were clear that *anything* in the constitution could be changed with enough support for an amendment

2018-12-04 04:19:53 UTC  

LAWS and legislations are for that.

2018-12-04 04:19:58 UTC  

We know what the constitution is. Get off your high horse. Just because people disagree with you doesn't mean they're wrong.

2018-12-04 04:20:05 UTC  

This just in: the constitution is not a legal document.

2018-12-04 04:20:07 UTC  

The constitution tells the government what it CAN or Can't do.

2018-12-04 04:20:09 UTC  

Don’t like guns? You can amend the constitution to get rid of then