Message from @Schedrevka
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So did the right 50 years ago, and they did it under the banner of Christianity
Yeah and most Atheists are like that, cause most people are NPCs
That doesn't mean they worshiped the state, that just meant that they had power and they used it for their own means
Yeah this tiem it's left wing communism shit
That's way worse
They are ideological zealots that hate freedom
So then their 'religion' would be communism/feminism/intersectionality, not the state
Communism is the state to them
That is defined in the state
The state is just the means through which they wish to push their ideology
yes
Not anarcho communism, totalitarian communism
No, that would make them fascist rather than communist
Stalin wasn't a fascist
@Dusty Morgan I was saying this for years
That's socialist then.
Socialism is a means to communsim
The end goal of the USSR was communism
According to Marx, yeah.
Many view Socialism as the end goal also.
according to Lenin, Stalin too
They said so in their diaries
And speeches
It's not an end goal. If you follow the pathway of redistribution and the government seizure of private property you get communism
But either way they aren't worshipping the state. They're worshipping their ideology that they want the state to become
and then you get anarchism @DrWittMDPhD
Socialism and Communism have the same end goal but have different methods of achieving it
You get communism when the state doesn't exist anymore.
You can tame religions, make them more of a tradition of a secular world. Make it just an insignificant cultural aspect
Yes
Like pagans are today
they exist
No one gives a shit
But they do their thing
That's one of the defining factors of Communism. A stateless and classless society. That's why people claim 'true communism' has never been tried. Because it is a pipe dream, and every time it's been attempted it can never be reached.
We naturally form classes
Yes
Communism is unnatural thus