Message from @Gilgamesh
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The wild west for the internet's been dead since 2007 if we're being honest. Since then it's been all cities and bullshit.
Now it's extra bullshit and totalitarian where you can't leave anymore
They'll drive a tank into your new house and set it on fire if they don't like it
There was an incident where it's believed someone posted CP on 8chan with the intent of getting them shut down when it first started gaining an audience
Determinist fags <:ResidentSleeper:358488808917958659>
Free will is such a worthless debate
I find it interesting... this deals with our biological impulses.
"Bro it doesn't exist, like it's all predetermined"
"Did fate tell you that?"
Can force us to act certain ways. Does that go against our free will?
We have plausible will. We are able to make choices and act within the scope of possibility.
Some actions will cause us to be heavily influenced but ultimately it is our will
Free will implies determinism.
Indeterminism and free will are incompatible.
That's just circular logic.
If you have a million, hell, a trillion actions you can do in this very moment, and you determine one to be correct, it is your will being done when you enact it in spite of all else you could have done.
acting under the assumtion that you are a boltzmann brain is impossible.
I haven't seen any reason to believe in anything other than deterministic causality and therefor no free will, but don't think it's really worth thinking too much about. The universe is far too chaotic of a system for it to matter much to me.
how does free will imply determinism
look
free will and fate coexist obviously
we have choice but we are born into circumstance
simple
simple fucking shit
```"No thinking and no acting would be possible to man if the universe were chaotic, i.e., if there were no regularity whatever in the succession and concatenation of events. In such a world of unlimited contingency nothing could be perceived but ceaseless kaleidoscopic change. There would be no possibility for man to expect anything. All experience would be merely historical, the record of what has happened in the past. No inference from past events to what might happen in the future would be permissible. Therefore man could not act. He could at best be a passive spectator and would not be able to make any arrangements for the future, be it only for the future of the impending instant. The first and basic achievement of thinking is the awareness of constant relations among the external phenomena that affect our senses. A bundle of events that are regularly related in a definite way to other events is called a specific thing and as such distinguished from other specific thingsā¦. Whatever philosophers may say about causality, the fact remains that no action could be performed by men not guided by it. Neither can we imagine a mind not aware of the nexus of cause and effect. In this sense we may speak of causality as a category or an a priori of thinking and acting."
-Mises```
who the fuck is mises
Ludwig von Mises.
Well Ludwig von Mises is an idiot
Best economist to have existed so far.
look
why did you quote that
He should stick to economics
i wish you could paraphrase his idea and make it your own
Mises was a compatibilist.
that's a lot to read
i'm drunk
classic trump derangement syndrome https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/north-dakota-man-admitted-stealing-forklift-to-kill-donald-trump-da_us_5bfef3b5e4b0388c1770d678
I did paraphrase it.
Free will implies determinism.