Message from @The Ghost of Monarchies

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2018-12-04 07:29:16 UTC  

If you don't let me criticize it you're violating my free speech

2018-12-04 07:29:25 UTC  

True

2018-12-04 07:29:48 UTC  

Sounds like a contradiction to call it sacred then.

2018-12-04 07:30:14 UTC  

Hey anyone want to smuggle me out of Europa, want to escape it before it becomes a second Korea?

2018-12-04 07:30:25 UTC  

Nothing is inherently sacred. Only that which we all agree upon.

2018-12-04 07:30:31 UTC  

^

2018-12-04 07:30:37 UTC  

Impossible.

2018-12-04 07:31:12 UTC  

We can't even get everyone to agree on what two plus two equals.

2018-12-04 07:31:26 UTC  

22

2018-12-04 07:32:47 UTC  

So like, I'm sure it's been discussed to death, but, it seems many major sites are cracking down on pornographic content lately. They pushed "No this, it's profane" and then from there ate more and more of it's way to "No explicit images"
And it seems to be incredibly broad, across the board, like the silicon oligarchy is trying to purge it

Almost like television.

2018-12-04 07:34:07 UTC  

The wild west of the internet has been ending for the last decade.

2018-12-04 07:34:35 UTC  

Like, how much longer until there's a crackdown on things like servers hosting explicit material? They've already shown they can bully entire services off the net with any outrage.
I feel like, and call me a conspiracy nut, but, I feel like the tumblr bots that seeped in CP wasn't an accident

2018-12-04 07:34:57 UTC  

The wild west for the internet's been dead since 2007 if we're being honest. Since then it's been all cities and bullshit.

2018-12-04 07:35:17 UTC  

Now it's extra bullshit and totalitarian where you can't leave anymore

2018-12-04 07:35:34 UTC  

They'll drive a tank into your new house and set it on fire if they don't like it

2018-12-04 07:35:37 UTC  

There was an incident where it's believed someone posted CP on 8chan with the intent of getting them shut down when it first started gaining an audience

2018-12-04 07:36:00 UTC  

Determinist fags <:ResidentSleeper:358488808917958659>

2018-12-04 07:36:05 UTC  

Free will is such a worthless debate

2018-12-04 07:36:23 UTC  

I find it interesting... this deals with our biological impulses.

2018-12-04 07:36:28 UTC  

"Bro it doesn't exist, like it's all predetermined"
"Did fate tell you that?"

2018-12-04 07:36:35 UTC  

Can force us to act certain ways. Does that go against our free will?

2018-12-04 07:37:01 UTC  

We have plausible will. We are able to make choices and act within the scope of possibility.

2018-12-04 07:37:16 UTC  

Some actions will cause us to be heavily influenced but ultimately it is our will

2018-12-04 07:37:40 UTC  

Free will implies determinism.

2018-12-04 07:38:09 UTC  

Indeterminism and free will are incompatible.

2018-12-04 07:38:41 UTC  

That's just circular logic.

2018-12-04 07:39:27 UTC  

If you have a million, hell, a trillion actions you can do in this very moment, and you determine one to be correct, it is your will being done when you enact it in spite of all else you could have done.

2018-12-04 07:40:12 UTC  

acting under the assumtion that you are a boltzmann brain is impossible.

2018-12-04 07:40:16 UTC  

I haven't seen any reason to believe in anything other than deterministic causality and therefor no free will, but don't think it's really worth thinking too much about. The universe is far too chaotic of a system for it to matter much to me.

2018-12-04 07:40:49 UTC  

how does free will imply determinism

2018-12-04 07:40:52 UTC  

that's fucking opposite

2018-12-04 07:41:18 UTC  

look

2018-12-04 07:41:24 UTC  

free will and fate coexist obviously

2018-12-04 07:41:32 UTC  

we have choice but we are born into circumstance

2018-12-04 07:41:34 UTC  

simple

2018-12-04 07:41:36 UTC  

simple fucking shit

2018-12-04 07:41:49 UTC  

```"No thinking and no acting would be possible to man if the universe were chaotic, i.e., if there were no regularity whatever in the succession and concatenation of events. In such a world of unlimited contingency nothing could be perceived but ceaseless kaleidoscopic change. There would be no possibility for man to expect anything. All experience would be merely historical, the record of what has happened in the past. No inference from past events to what might happen in the future would be permissible. Therefore man could not act. He could at best be a passive spectator and would not be able to make any arrangements for the future, be it only for the future of the impending instant. The first and basic achievement of thinking is the awareness of constant relations among the external phenomena that affect our senses. A bundle of events that are regularly related in a definite way to other events is called a specific thing and as such distinguished from other specific thingsā€¦. Whatever philosophers may say about causality, the fact remains that no action could be performed by men not guided by it. Neither can we imagine a mind not aware of the nexus of cause and effect. In this sense we may speak of causality as a category or an a priori of thinking and acting."
-Mises```

2018-12-04 07:41:58 UTC  

who the fuck is mises

2018-12-04 07:42:10 UTC  

Ludwig von Mises.