Message from @Rouqen

Discord ID: 519992417236287497


2018-12-05 21:40:29 UTC  

though that usually requires work

2018-12-05 21:40:55 UTC  

Except that wasnt defined in the philosophy and is a contradiction as it cannot be maintained consistently

2018-12-05 21:41:11 UTC  

indeed

2018-12-05 21:41:19 UTC  

that why its flawed

2018-12-05 21:41:32 UTC  

I for one believe money is necessary to achieve or maintain happiness

2018-12-05 21:41:41 UTC  

I got 50/50 for a reason

2018-12-05 21:42:33 UTC  

@SantaSoc So if you threw man in the wild can money obtain happiness or if he gets rich

2018-12-05 21:42:48 UTC  

Dunno that I agree with my results tho

2018-12-05 21:42:55 UTC  

Neither do I

2018-12-05 21:43:19 UTC  

These tests arent that accurate though

2018-12-05 21:43:24 UTC  

Its just a rough guess

2018-12-05 21:43:24 UTC  

I don't think I am spiritual

2018-12-05 21:43:29 UTC  

Sure

2018-12-05 21:43:32 UTC  

My argument, is that in a situation with given choice of attainment. Money is necessary.

2018-12-05 21:43:48 UTC  

In what context?

2018-12-05 21:43:52 UTC  

I think I'm definitely more "spiritual", just not religious

2018-12-05 21:43:57 UTC  

Games make me happpy

2018-12-05 21:44:06 UTC  

I am materialist

2018-12-05 21:44:07 UTC  

By the definition they seem to use

2018-12-05 21:44:13 UTC  

A full blown

2018-12-05 21:44:22 UTC  

Matter is all

2018-12-05 21:44:25 UTC  

But i still need money to use or obtain access to play games

2018-12-05 21:44:27 UTC  

That will eventually stagnate as it is a contradiction of man

2018-12-05 21:44:36 UTC  

Man must produce

2018-12-05 21:44:56 UTC  

Production is a result of need

2018-12-05 21:45:05 UTC  

Yes

2018-12-05 21:45:08 UTC  

@Rouqen so material gain is the primary need?

2018-12-05 21:45:13 UTC  

Man needs it to survive and attain happiness

2018-12-05 21:45:16 UTC  

no no @Beemann

2018-12-05 21:45:20 UTC  

Not like money

2018-12-05 21:45:34 UTC  

That's what I think their dichotomy was based off of

2018-12-05 21:45:42 UTC  

Material vs immaterial gain

2018-12-05 21:45:43 UTC  

Nope

2018-12-05 21:45:51 UTC  

I think along the lines of the means to obtain the end

2018-12-05 21:46:10 UTC  

To what end?

2018-12-05 21:46:10 UTC  

There was a question if there is only matter @Beemann

2018-12-05 21:46:17 UTC  

And why should this be a primary?

2018-12-05 21:46:20 UTC  

Ah

2018-12-05 21:46:24 UTC  

I said stronk yes

2018-12-05 21:46:42 UTC  

I thought it was about the dichotomy