Message from @webdevanon
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>raising income taxes to EU tier rates
>center left
anon
Yes. Those things are center-left.
my god
someone demote him from trusted member
this is degenerate
Unless you think European countries, even ones like Sweden, are literally Socialist. Hint: they're not.
they are
first off
If you think the US isn't already socialist, they are
we are*
hwat
>social security
>medicare
Sweden is not a Socialist state
No they aren't. Read the Wikipedia article on socialism if you aren't quite sure what it entails.
>means haven't been siezed
therefore not socialist
@Iamawesom That's communism, actually.
i know exactly what socialism is, if youre using the term """democratic socialists""" terms, we are socialist, if you use the term as Karl Marx intended it to be used, we aren't
Well Socialism is just communism lite
also "to each according to his contributions" is the Socialist model
Socialism is means to an end (that end being communism).
exactly
and what do you think the end goal of socializing institutions that take up a large portion of the economy is, exactly?
Democratic Socialism is a different flavor of Socialism. Sweden is a Social Democracy
aka a welfare state
Democratic Socialism is just socialism achieved through democratic means. It's telling that it's proponents have to make that distinction.
if you faggots dont think sweden will collapse in 10-15 years, your retahded
https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1490808309595.jpg remember to do as Jesus did
I never said otherwise
Sweden is retarded, but they aren't technically socialist
sweden worked because its 90-something % white and had a good portion of tax payers as opposed to leaches
and they have a lot of oil
That's Norway
Social Democracy is actually just capitalism with a massive welfare state.
Norway is the one with oil
>implying the US isnt a massive welfare state
@webdevanon a retarded welfare state