Message from @Hernán Cortés

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2017-03-29 18:01:54 UTC  

Yes. Those things are center-left.

2017-03-29 18:02:07 UTC  

my god

2017-03-29 18:02:26 UTC  

someone demote him from trusted member

2017-03-29 18:02:30 UTC  

this is degenerate

2017-03-29 18:02:38 UTC  

Unless you think European countries, even ones like Sweden, are literally Socialist. Hint: they're not.

2017-03-29 18:02:42 UTC  

they are

2017-03-29 18:02:45 UTC  

first off

2017-03-29 18:02:53 UTC  

If you think the US isn't already socialist, they are

2017-03-29 18:02:57 UTC  

we are*

2017-03-29 18:03:04 UTC  

hwat

2017-03-29 18:03:05 UTC  

>social security

2017-03-29 18:03:09 UTC  

>medicare

2017-03-29 18:03:09 UTC  

Sweden is not a Socialist state

2017-03-29 18:03:20 UTC  

No they aren't. Read the Wikipedia article on socialism if you aren't quite sure what it entails.

2017-03-29 18:03:34 UTC  

>means haven't been siezed

2017-03-29 18:03:40 UTC  

therefore not socialist

2017-03-29 18:03:50 UTC  

@Iamawesom That's communism, actually.

2017-03-29 18:03:59 UTC  

i know exactly what socialism is, if youre using the term """democratic socialists""" terms, we are socialist, if you use the term as Karl Marx intended it to be used, we aren't

2017-03-29 18:04:06 UTC  

Well Socialism is just communism lite

2017-03-29 18:04:27 UTC  

also "to each according to his contributions" is the Socialist model

2017-03-29 18:04:30 UTC  

Socialism is means to an end (that end being communism).

2017-03-29 18:04:40 UTC  

exactly

2017-03-29 18:05:01 UTC  

and what do you think the end goal of socializing institutions that take up a large portion of the economy is, exactly?

2017-03-29 18:05:23 UTC  

Democratic Socialism is a different flavor of Socialism. Sweden is a Social Democracy

2017-03-29 18:05:27 UTC  

aka a welfare state

2017-03-29 18:05:38 UTC  

Democratic Socialism is just socialism achieved through democratic means. It's telling that it's proponents have to make that distinction.

2017-03-29 18:05:51 UTC  

if you faggots dont think sweden will collapse in 10-15 years, your retahded

2017-03-29 18:05:52 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/276935978369810432/296706542843985920/8c7V4ze.png

2017-03-29 18:06:06 UTC  

https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1490808309595.jpg remember to do as Jesus did

2017-03-29 18:06:10 UTC  

I never said otherwise

2017-03-29 18:06:31 UTC  

Sweden is retarded, but they aren't technically socialist

2017-03-29 18:06:38 UTC  

sweden worked because its 90-something % white and had a good portion of tax payers as opposed to leaches

2017-03-29 18:06:46 UTC  

and they have a lot of oil

2017-03-29 18:07:03 UTC  

That's Norway

2017-03-29 18:07:03 UTC  

Social Democracy is actually just capitalism with a massive welfare state.

2017-03-29 18:07:11 UTC  

Norway is the one with oil

2017-03-29 18:07:23 UTC  

>implying the US isnt a massive welfare state

2017-03-29 18:07:34 UTC  

@webdevanon a retarded welfare state

2017-03-29 18:07:37 UTC  

1 in 5 californians are on welfare of some sort

2017-03-29 18:07:48 UTC  

thats not feasible

2017-03-29 18:07:51 UTC  

Like the US doesn't even do welfare correctly