Sweden is not a Socialist state

No they aren't. Read the Wikipedia article on socialism if you aren't quite sure what it entails.

>means haven't been siezed

therefore not socialist

@Iamawesom That's communism, actually.

i know exactly what socialism is, if youre using the term """democratic socialists""" terms, we are socialist, if you use the term as Karl Marx intended it to be used, we aren't

Well Socialism is just communism lite

also "to each according to his contributions" is the Socialist model

Socialism is means to an end (that end being communism).

exactly

and what do you think the end goal of socializing institutions that take up a large portion of the economy is, exactly?

Democratic Socialism is a different flavor of Socialism. Sweden is a Social Democracy

aka a welfare state

Democratic Socialism is just socialism achieved through democratic means. It's telling that it's proponents have to make that distinction.

if you faggots dont think sweden will collapse in 10-15 years, your retahded

https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1490808309595.jpg remember to do as Jesus did

I never said otherwise

Sweden is retarded, but they aren't technically socialist

sweden worked because its 90-something % white and had a good portion of tax payers as opposed to leaches

and they have a lot of oil

That's Norway

Social Democracy is actually just capitalism with a massive welfare state.

Norway is the one with oil

>implying the US isnt a massive welfare state

@webdevanon a retarded welfare state

1 in 5 californians are on welfare of some sort

thats not feasible

Like the US doesn't even do welfare correctly

like jfc

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1490809818943.jpg

"drug testing applicants for welfare is bad"

Also ourwelfare program has rules almost like they intended they wanted people to live off it forever and not get a job to get out

"asking for public work service to improve the area is slave labor"

The US doesn't provide as much welfare to its citizens as most European countries do, which is the major wedge issue in contemporary politics.

Whether or not it should is entirely up to ones ideological stance.

yet, we have an unfeasibly large % of americans taking welfare

>yes goyim, they aren't getting jobs cuz we dont give em enough gibs! INCREASE GIBS PROGRAMS

I make like 10k a year but I'm never going on welfare

For welfare's sake at least

yet you are massively incentivized to