Message from @paradigm

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2018-12-07 15:38:45 UTC  

go make a deal with your local bank

2018-12-07 15:38:52 UTC  

automated clearing house

2018-12-07 15:38:57 UTC  

Who has a local bank?

2018-12-07 15:39:04 UTC  

it is the mechanism whereby one account sends money to another

2018-12-07 15:39:04 UTC  

I mean one that only exists locally?

2018-12-07 15:39:14 UTC  

there are thousands and thousands

2018-12-07 15:39:15 UTC  

find one

2018-12-07 15:39:21 UTC  

Where?

2018-12-07 15:39:24 UTC  

anywhere

2018-12-07 15:39:26 UTC  

who cares?

2018-12-07 15:39:26 UTC  

Not where I have lived.

2018-12-07 15:39:39 UTC  

bank, credit union

2018-12-07 15:39:46 UTC  

literally every small town has them

2018-12-07 15:40:00 UTC  

internet banks

2018-12-07 15:40:03 UTC  

the list is endless

2018-12-07 15:40:11 UTC  

Maybe in the US, a legacy of your history of decentralised currencies.

2018-12-07 15:40:18 UTC  

Not anywhere I have lived.

2018-12-07 15:40:19 UTC  

find one that is comfortable with your business, and implement ACH for your supporters

2018-12-07 15:40:32 UTC  

quickbooks has it built in

2018-12-07 15:40:39 UTC  

There are local branches which represent a handful of national and international banks.

2018-12-07 15:41:21 UTC  

all you need is a financial institution that handles transactions
and will sign a contract with you that they cannot breach

2018-12-07 15:41:38 UTC  

AND
here is the key
every individual publisher needs to do that

2018-12-07 15:41:38 UTC  

Apparently, Sargon was banned from Patreon now.

2018-12-07 15:41:43 UTC  

yup

2018-12-07 15:41:46 UTC  

RIP every moderate.

2018-12-07 15:42:41 UTC  

Honestly, I don't see it as a) censorship resistant or b) practical, or even possible, in the jurisdictions I have lived in (4 countries in total).

2018-12-07 15:43:27 UTC  

I understand your reticence about blockchains.

2018-12-07 15:43:49 UTC  

But a) there are blockchains which are properly private and circumvent censhorship

2018-12-07 15:44:01 UTC  

But, then again when a door is shut, a window is open.

2018-12-07 15:44:16 UTC  

We can always use the Blockchain, as there's no third party involved

2018-12-07 15:44:18 UTC  

you don't see establishing a contractual banking relationship as possible @Heteronymus Bosch

2018-12-07 15:44:25 UTC  

and b) it's happening whether you like it or not.

2018-12-07 15:44:33 UTC  

let it happen

2018-12-07 15:44:38 UTC  

If Sargon can be seen as violating Patreon ToS, I don't think anyone who isn't a flaming progressive is safe.

2018-12-07 15:44:57 UTC  

nobody is safe
on SOMEONE ELSE's platform

2018-12-07 15:45:01 UTC  

this isn't rocket science

2018-12-07 15:45:17 UTC  

either you build your own busines - or you don't honestly have one

2018-12-07 15:45:53 UTC  

I'

2018-12-07 15:45:56 UTC  

Unless you have a few billion to launch your own bank and credit card, none of this blockchain bullshit is going to help. You still have to interface with the real world economy at some point, and at that point they'll shut you down.

2018-12-07 15:46:11 UTC  

This is why crypto is the future. It's supposed to be used and traded as a currency, not stock.

2018-12-07 15:46:13 UTC  

Visa, Mastercard, and the banks are all hostile.