Message from @Heteronymus Bosch

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2018-12-07 15:37:58 UTC  

the solutions funded by silicon valley will include surveillance and control

2018-12-07 15:38:22 UTC  

If you know of other solutions to financial censorship, please let me know.

2018-12-07 15:38:33 UTC  

ACH

2018-12-07 15:38:36 UTC  

They certainly will.

2018-12-07 15:38:42 UTC  

Ok. What is it?

2018-12-07 15:38:45 UTC  

go make a deal with your local bank

2018-12-07 15:38:52 UTC  

automated clearing house

2018-12-07 15:38:57 UTC  

Who has a local bank?

2018-12-07 15:39:04 UTC  

it is the mechanism whereby one account sends money to another

2018-12-07 15:39:04 UTC  

I mean one that only exists locally?

2018-12-07 15:39:14 UTC  

there are thousands and thousands

2018-12-07 15:39:15 UTC  

find one

2018-12-07 15:39:21 UTC  

Where?

2018-12-07 15:39:24 UTC  

anywhere

2018-12-07 15:39:26 UTC  

who cares?

2018-12-07 15:39:26 UTC  

Not where I have lived.

2018-12-07 15:39:39 UTC  

bank, credit union

2018-12-07 15:39:46 UTC  

literally every small town has them

2018-12-07 15:40:00 UTC  

internet banks

2018-12-07 15:40:03 UTC  

the list is endless

2018-12-07 15:40:11 UTC  

Maybe in the US, a legacy of your history of decentralised currencies.

2018-12-07 15:40:18 UTC  

Not anywhere I have lived.

2018-12-07 15:40:19 UTC  

find one that is comfortable with your business, and implement ACH for your supporters

2018-12-07 15:40:32 UTC  

quickbooks has it built in

2018-12-07 15:40:39 UTC  

There are local branches which represent a handful of national and international banks.

2018-12-07 15:41:21 UTC  

all you need is a financial institution that handles transactions
and will sign a contract with you that they cannot breach

2018-12-07 15:41:38 UTC  

AND
here is the key
every individual publisher needs to do that

2018-12-07 15:41:38 UTC  

Apparently, Sargon was banned from Patreon now.

2018-12-07 15:41:43 UTC  

yup

2018-12-07 15:41:46 UTC  

RIP every moderate.

2018-12-07 15:42:41 UTC  

Honestly, I don't see it as a) censorship resistant or b) practical, or even possible, in the jurisdictions I have lived in (4 countries in total).

2018-12-07 15:43:27 UTC  

I understand your reticence about blockchains.

2018-12-07 15:43:49 UTC  

But a) there are blockchains which are properly private and circumvent censhorship

2018-12-07 15:44:01 UTC  

But, then again when a door is shut, a window is open.

2018-12-07 15:44:16 UTC  

We can always use the Blockchain, as there's no third party involved

2018-12-07 15:44:18 UTC  

you don't see establishing a contractual banking relationship as possible @Heteronymus Bosch

2018-12-07 15:44:25 UTC  

and b) it's happening whether you like it or not.

2018-12-07 15:44:33 UTC  

let it happen

2018-12-07 15:44:38 UTC  

If Sargon can be seen as violating Patreon ToS, I don't think anyone who isn't a flaming progressive is safe.

2018-12-07 15:44:57 UTC  

nobody is safe
on SOMEONE ELSE's platform

2018-12-07 15:45:01 UTC  

this isn't rocket science