Message from @Heteronymus Bosch

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2018-12-07 15:32:06 UTC  

So again everyone else is trying to talk about creating a lefty-proof payments system while you're talking about digital authentication.

2018-12-07 15:32:09 UTC  

his teeth are a reflection of american politics

2018-12-07 15:32:14 UTC  

"crooked" 😉

2018-12-07 15:32:34 UTC  

told you it was a pipedream Devpav 😛

2018-12-07 15:32:57 UTC  

So verifiability is critical, but blockchain (or potentially DAG) solutions have no role to play? How can you verify a datapoint without a persistent publicly verifiable record (which appears to be your bugbear with blockchain - and to be clear, I understand why you feel that way, I just think the tech itself is inevitable)?

2018-12-07 15:32:58 UTC  

carrier pigeon!

2018-12-07 15:33:18 UTC  

yes @devpav I am building the foundation while everyone else chases the cryptocurrency dream

2018-12-07 15:33:53 UTC  

i actually have more faith in what you explained than the crypto dream Paradigm

2018-12-07 15:33:56 UTC  

@Heteronymus Bosch keyservers and DNS records can be verified

2018-12-07 15:33:59 UTC  

Wol, I think your comic summed up the situation pretty well. Without financial freedom we might as well fight a revolution.

2018-12-07 15:34:40 UTC  

well its the end point,

government controls all the doors, the only ones you can walk through are the ones they let you use

2018-12-07 15:34:43 UTC  

there will be a thousand payment solutions that present themselves

2018-12-07 15:34:47 UTC  

So what's the difference? I mean, it's a publicly verifiable record, but that's the problem you appear to have with blockchain...

2018-12-07 15:35:05 UTC  

And they won't be barter.

2018-12-07 15:35:17 UTC  

Thousands canm

2018-12-07 15:35:21 UTC  

's survive.

2018-12-07 15:35:36 UTC  

There will be only a handful which thrive.

2018-12-07 15:35:40 UTC  

blockchain is an audit trail of financial (and other) transactions
public verification of identity is entirely different

2018-12-07 15:35:46 UTC  

blockchain is surveillance tech

2018-12-07 15:36:04 UTC  

Not only.

2018-12-07 15:36:10 UTC  

But it could be used for surveillance.

2018-12-07 15:36:11 UTC  

not only, but almost always

2018-12-07 15:36:13 UTC  

And it will.

2018-12-07 15:36:17 UTC  

it will

2018-12-07 15:36:20 UTC  

I agree.

2018-12-07 15:36:22 UTC  

it most assuredly will

2018-12-07 15:36:32 UTC  

there will be billions invested to make that happen

2018-12-07 15:36:36 UTC  

That's why it needs to be in the hands of the public.

2018-12-07 15:36:43 UTC  

As much as possible.

2018-12-07 15:36:50 UTC  

yeah

2018-12-07 15:37:03 UTC  

or just use a never-ending supply of new identities for transactions

2018-12-07 15:37:04 UTC  

but

2018-12-07 15:37:15 UTC  

as I said, many solutions will present themselves

2018-12-07 15:37:24 UTC  

They will.

2018-12-07 15:37:29 UTC  

But few will survive.

2018-12-07 15:37:41 UTC  

And those that do will survive because people used them.

2018-12-07 15:37:57 UTC  

As I am proposing you do with the likely emergent solutions I know of.

2018-12-07 15:37:58 UTC  

the solutions funded by silicon valley will include surveillance and control

2018-12-07 15:38:22 UTC  

If you know of other solutions to financial censorship, please let me know.

2018-12-07 15:38:33 UTC  

ACH

2018-12-07 15:38:36 UTC  

They certainly will.