Message from @Atkins
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lol
@Atkins Strawman
Go! Make some money! Your fortunes await!
and calling people who aren't for complete unregulated capitalism Nazis isn't?
Think of the franchising opportunities!
I didnt call you nazis I just pointed out a parallel
you're implying that they are the same
Nice strawman though
@EndangeredProdigy Yeah im not I critiqued the argument
"I didn't call you a nazi, I just said you share qualities with nazis."
lol
@Existence is identity why should the masses work for the interests of public indivuals that can do whatever they want? if you don't want them getting help beyond themselves then how can they expand and grow into a functional network despite it potentially being in the way of other people's claimed interests? if the entire market is just a garbled up mess of people not working together then how will anything work long term?
Doesnt make you a nazi
Just like you share qualities with a pedophile, Skeptic.
@Misomania Why should we make people suffer for the greater good?
On account of breathing and eating food.
It doesn't make you a pedophile. It just makes you *like* one.
DO the individuals not matter?
@Existence is identity why do you believe all public good MUST be an evil toward all the people?
@Bookworm Nice strawman
Uncharitably reframing your argument is a strawman.
K.
Tens of millions of people priced out of the food market.
Free market at work though.
@Existence is identity I believe that it doesnt matter what others think as long as you dont harm their right and are consistent.
you just talked to yourself
Nobody's rights were infringed.
@Existence is identity and why do you think that people putting their OWN interests above all won't cause equal or greater harm long term?
Except the people who had to bury the bodies without compensation.
@Misomania So are you not allowed to have your own interests if they dont benefit others
?
takes a compromise to live in a society, it's not as static black and white as you argue
much more nuanced then you want to see it
^
There is a fundamental moral difference between a man who sees his self-interest in production and a man who sees it in robbery. The evil of a robber does not lie in the fact that he pursues his own interests, but in what he regards as to his own interest; not in the fact that he pursues his values, but in what he chose to value; not in the fact that he wants to live, but in the fact that he wants to live on a subhuman level .
There's a reason why Ancap memes are called strawmen
The United States is not a free market, it's a mixed market economy
for a reason
Do you ask what moral obligation I owe to my fellow men? None—except the obligation I owe to myself, to material objects and to all of existence: rationality. I deal with men as my nature and theirs demands: by means of reason. I seek or desire nothing from them except such relations as they care to enter of their own voluntary choice. It is only with their mind that I can deal and only for my own self-interest, when they see that my interest coincides with theirs. When they don’t, I enter no relationship; I let dissenters go their way and I do not swerve from mine. I win by means of nothing but logic and I surrender to nothing but logic. I do not surrender my reason or deal with men who surrender theirs.
Now he's quoting...