Message from @Grovyle
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i think effectively putting price controls on the internet makes it slower for everyone
which is fair i guess in a commie type of fair
but isn't it now a state, thing?
i thought this removal thing was only on federal level
yeah
but to me seems kinda hard to argue that californa or new jersey basically stopped the bad corporations from taking over the internet
California seems okay with violating the law anyway when its convenient
yeah that too
but i'm just wondering when the internet is gonna be dead from ajit pai
Its not, i said it before it got repealed,
It most likely wont do anything, companies are out for getting money, which means they'll want people to accept their services,
If they start throddling big places, people will get upset and move to another ISP who does
The removal of net neutrality hasn't really had an impact yet but ISPs in the US often have regional monopolies, people don't want to give the ISPs so much power over what their users can do with their service when there's no alternative
The ISPs wanted net neutrality repealed for a reason
but if they ruin those regions, there WILL be alternatives, cuz they see "hmm, heres thousands of new potential people i can steal"
before that it was "well, i can't "outperform" that company so i wont try to take over"
I doubt it, see data caps in rural areas
and people were stuck with shitty internet cuz theres no alternative
they already had that
in general US ISP's are shitty mind you 😛
Yeah, data caps were being placed on rural users and they have no option but to give their ISP more money to use their internet past the cap
Competition has not happened
not profitable enough yet
You have local fiber popping up here and there though which is good
if it becomes succesful enough, it will prolly
@Dr.Wol internet gets slower
Have 1mbps today had 1mbps 10years ago
That's anecdotal evidence to be fair
i used to have 1 mbps, but my ISP upgraded the minimum package to be 5 mbps 😄 so i had no choice
so whats the timeframe before we can start to see an impact from the removal of net neutrality?
depends really
Who knows
10 years?
shouldnt the speeds just keep increasing?
Point is the ISPs wanted NN lifted for a reason, we'll see why eventually
if the ISP's do it over 10 years you'll hardly see any outrage, its the frog in the pan
Also the concern with net neutrality repeal isnt slowing down of speeds, its certain websites being throttled, the unthrottled speed of your internet will only go up over time due to upgrades in infrastructure
maybe its so big companies like facebook/google can bribe ISP's do start throddling competitors
i guess i'll check back after another year
Um, it is recognised here that Repubs generally are against net neutrality and Dems are for it, right? Have I fallen into an alternate universe where you're all Democrats now? O_O
republicans believe in democracy too
i seem to know a lot of conservatives who are pro net neutrality
I'm pretty sure net neutrality was popular when people were polled on the issue, something like 80% approval
Being for net neutrality doesn't make you a democrat and i don't identify as a democrat, though i am center left
Just because someone favors a party