Message from @Graylan | gray00

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2018-12-15 20:24:56 UTC  

Or whoever else.

2018-12-15 20:25:02 UTC  

over printed DL-44 blasters?

2018-12-15 20:25:12 UTC  

They don't exactly have good track record

2018-12-15 20:25:36 UTC  

@Graylan | gray00 you don't need to decrypt anything if you have the keys though

2018-12-15 20:26:07 UTC  

wonder what kind of holiday for a single person who doesnt drive can have in the US

2018-12-15 20:26:09 UTC  

decryption keys let you remove the encryption or bypass it

2018-12-15 20:26:21 UTC  

@Misomania the problem is if you have a public key doesn't mean you have a private key.

2018-12-15 20:26:44 UTC  

need to hit a shooting range with a good choice of weapons, would like to hit some good zoos / museums would love to see a rocket launch, etc etc

2018-12-15 20:26:54 UTC  

platforms like discord can give both to the governments asking for them though @Graylan | gray00

2018-12-15 20:27:26 UTC  

if you are not the one doing the encryption, you cannot assume it's being done in a way that works

2018-12-15 20:27:40 UTC  

@Misomania yeah encryption has many flavors.

2018-12-15 20:27:55 UTC  

End to end or user encrpyted and only user viewable.

2018-12-15 20:28:28 UTC  

Steem dpos uses an interesting encrpytion that you cannot read the code unless you have your own private key.

2018-12-15 20:28:47 UTC  

So if I send you a message

2018-12-15 20:28:58 UTC  

No one else but me and you can see it.

2018-12-15 20:29:02 UTC  

still has to include the user themselves at some point, they have to generate their own key outside of the platform

2018-12-15 20:29:18 UTC  

and that excludes most platforms and most users capabilities

2018-12-15 20:29:34 UTC  

I'm talking about steem dpos

2018-12-15 20:29:56 UTC  

Only a handful of those decentralized systems on the planet

2018-12-15 20:30:52 UTC  

Concensus and powerful encryption ensure no one can read it. Only sender and receiver . While still being hosted inside the blockchain forever.

2018-12-15 20:31:49 UTC  

With discord it's not like this. At all. It's simple database. I can go edit all your messages if I wanted to and worked at discord.

2018-12-15 20:32:13 UTC  

You can't edit the blocks in a blockchain see.

2018-12-15 20:33:27 UTC  

signal is pretty well established at this point if you want private communication

2018-12-15 20:33:32 UTC  

you can however man in the middle a blockchain

2018-12-15 20:35:24 UTC  

which is why they are thinking about an inherent private key killswitch for the blockchain

2018-12-15 20:35:47 UTC  

so that the chain self breaks if a node fails that private key exchange

2018-12-15 20:46:31 UTC  

“If it’s impossible to stop something, you’ve got to take charge of it” <-Of course! That's not concerning at all 🙄

2018-12-15 20:46:48 UTC  

^ blockchain

2018-12-15 20:47:11 UTC  

^ "web 3.0"

2018-12-15 20:47:34 UTC  

Exactly. Don't stop it, coopt it! Doesn't leave a martyr.

2018-12-15 20:47:38 UTC  

bingo

2018-12-15 20:49:14 UTC  

that was the web 2.0 plan, too
rather than allow the peer to peer tech that was 2/3 of internet traffic in 05 continue to mature
the centralized platforms took over the use cases
at a cost of literally billions of dollars ( youtube, netflix, facebook )

and only now are people realizing that the web 2.0 centralization necessarily lead to control and censorship

2018-12-15 20:49:25 UTC  

Personally, I'll date myself and say all music made after 1992 is crap. Doesn't mean I want to censor it or government to control it, though.

2018-12-15 20:50:07 UTC  

next up - web 3.0
wrap "decentralization" and "verifiability" up into blockchain solutions that implement surveillance and control

2018-12-15 20:50:58 UTC  

they need ways to prevent man in the middle and zombie nodes still

2018-12-15 20:51:26 UTC  

along with a regeneration method to refuse broken chains back together

2018-12-15 20:51:34 UTC  

is blockchain really required for any specific use case?

2018-12-15 20:51:49 UTC  

search engines are a big need for blockchain

2018-12-15 20:51:51 UTC  

for financial transactions, sure

2018-12-15 20:51:52 UTC  

Zombies? Did someone say zombies?