Message from @mateitheking
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Logic is eternal unchanging and universal
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Theists can't imagene a world without god #345
relating to or existing as an object of thought without consideration of independent existence —used chiefly in medieval philosophy
b: of, relating to, or being an object, phenomenon, or condition in the realm of sensible experience independent of individual thought and perceptible by all observers : having reality independent of the mind
We just exist
Objective^
you can't say without god we wouldn't have logic, you can't prove god
we can prove logic
did you just copy and paste a definition?
appeal to definition fallacy
Logic is a very provable concept
No i wrote it down in a second
God however
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i agree logic is provable
not the point
@Gilgamesh how do you prove it?
inherent reason
@mateitheking proof that logic exists then.
okay
A thing can be both true and false
for example
@Redneo I didn't make the claim
that can be proven
I can't be sick and ill at the same time
I mean all we are doing here is dancing around words
@mateitheking you did claim god is logic and that god exists, by extension you asserted that logic exists
@Rouqen Both true and false? that's illogical
if you exist, you would be able to feel your own sense of self, and only know yourself while only guessing at others
which is the same thing as god
Yes @mateitheking
@Redneo I claimed God's nature is the laws of logic
if you know yourself, but don't know others, then you exist
laws of logic is eternal unchanging and universal
sounds like God to me
Also
Are physical constants god?
no
why would they be