Message from @Grenade123
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how is losing access any different than a bank freezing your account? except you can find access to the internet, even if its hard. bank freezes your account? you are done.
what exactly is it that can happen?
@NativeInterface basically losing internet access forever
@Grenade123 I don't understand how I'm losing access.
@Graylan | gray00 if you lose internet access
That is how you are naive.
yeah if we permanently lose internet we may be in even bigger trouble than being poor
lose connection to your wallet and the chain
nodes don't work if the packets cannot be delivered because ICANN or the ISP refuses to do so
I have backup nodes. Different internet providers . As the others do.
Agreed, but it's not a thing that's impossible to happen.
counldnt you just tunnel
@Graylan | gray00 thats not the point, the point is if you lose access.
lets look at people who have been cut off from internet then
think of if suddenly a bitcoin node cannot get packets at all because their IP address is blacklisted
Yeah and if bank of America gets hacked you lose your money too.
is it even possible by the way to completely cut someone off and they have no way to gain access at all?
indeed my point
through an internet cafe or a friend or whatever
@NativeInterface icann can do that
Also the point invalidates itself.
Public access points + vpns
Well, there have also been court orders in the past
can we point to a person who as been uninterneted and they have no way of getting online anywhere?
yes
There's precedent for revoking that right.
So centralized network vs decentralized.
Well some people that violate the law
Its in their plea
no, its very hard to do that. @NativeInterface
How easy is it to wipe data in 30 counties.
What about 50
Let's go deep
right so i dont know what the specific real world tangible risk is
Does bank of America have ledgers in Mexico?
Spain?
new device with a new ip and you are around most blocks until they link that device and ip to you again.
^
The internet is global and will continue to expand.
IP addresses now are shared, they will just ban you and everyone else on switch. Collateral damage