Message from @Countess

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2018-12-23 21:28:58 UTC  

Isn't that a beautiful system of concensus ?

2018-12-23 21:29:15 UTC  

well lets suggest some realistic risks then

2018-12-23 21:29:21 UTC  

And if those nodes get cut off from the world, what good does that do?

2018-12-23 21:29:41 UTC  

@RyeNorth most currency is digital now

2018-12-23 21:29:49 UTC  

Oh, I know.

2018-12-23 21:29:51 UTC  

It troubles me.

2018-12-23 21:29:57 UTC  

What if? But it hasn't happened. 2009 to today..

2018-12-23 21:30:13 UTC  

times change

2018-12-23 21:30:15 UTC  

It hasn't happend in 10 years, so it will never happen. right?

2018-12-23 21:30:22 UTC  

how is losing access any different than a bank freezing your account? except you can find access to the internet, even if its hard. bank freezes your account? you are done.

2018-12-23 21:30:22 UTC  

what exactly is it that can happen?

2018-12-23 21:30:45 UTC  

@NativeInterface basically losing internet access forever

2018-12-23 21:30:51 UTC  

@Grenade123 I don't understand how I'm losing access.

2018-12-23 21:31:03 UTC  

@Graylan | gray00 if you lose internet access

2018-12-23 21:31:05 UTC  

That is how you are naive.

2018-12-23 21:31:18 UTC  

yeah if we permanently lose internet we may be in even bigger trouble than being poor

2018-12-23 21:31:21 UTC  

lose connection to your wallet and the chain

2018-12-23 21:31:33 UTC  

nodes don't work if the packets cannot be delivered because ICANN or the ISP refuses to do so

2018-12-23 21:31:35 UTC  

I have backup nodes. Different internet providers . As the others do.

2018-12-23 21:31:37 UTC  

Agreed, but it's not a thing that's impossible to happen.

2018-12-23 21:31:59 UTC  

counldnt you just tunnel

2018-12-23 21:31:59 UTC  

@Graylan | gray00 thats not the point, the point is if you lose access.

2018-12-23 21:32:11 UTC  

lets look at people who have been cut off from internet then

2018-12-23 21:32:16 UTC  

think of if suddenly a bitcoin node cannot get packets at all because their IP address is blacklisted

2018-12-23 21:32:27 UTC  

Yeah and if bank of America gets hacked you lose your money too.

2018-12-23 21:32:28 UTC  

is it even possible by the way to completely cut someone off and they have no way to gain access at all?

2018-12-23 21:32:36 UTC  

indeed my point

2018-12-23 21:32:39 UTC  

through an internet cafe or a friend or whatever

2018-12-23 21:32:42 UTC  

@NativeInterface icann can do that

2018-12-23 21:32:56 UTC  

or bank of america decides it doesn't like your speech and freezes you out

2018-12-23 21:33:02 UTC  

Also the point invalidates itself.

2018-12-23 21:33:06 UTC  

Public access points + vpns

2018-12-23 21:33:08 UTC  

Well, there have also been court orders in the past

2018-12-23 21:33:12 UTC  

can we point to a person who as been uninterneted and they have no way of getting online anywhere?

2018-12-23 21:33:19 UTC  

yes

2018-12-23 21:33:22 UTC  

There's precedent for revoking that right.

2018-12-23 21:33:23 UTC  

So centralized network vs decentralized.

2018-12-23 21:33:24 UTC  

Well some people that violate the law

2018-12-23 21:33:28 UTC  

Its in their plea

2018-12-23 21:33:32 UTC  

no, its very hard to do that. @NativeInterface

2018-12-23 21:33:39 UTC  

How easy is it to wipe data in 30 counties.