Abuse such as expecting your partner to change for you?Way more common.

Is that abuse?

Depends on the change, doesn't it?

It most certainly isnt love if you dont lke the person like he or she is.

well of course im not counting hitting my brother to give the ps4 controller back. there is an abvious difference between being rough and being violent

Is it love when spouses try to improve each other?

so if you play into the notion that you do love a person AND want to change them, yeah it most certainly is abuse

yeah but it depens on how he/she sees your actions

if they see it as an violent act then you might have an investigation on your head 😄

good point

that is why kid needs fathers and rough and tough play

Yeah. Im past the "children need both parents" BS. There is no evidence that children need a mother. There is evidence of how they do if they have only a mother.

to know what is violence and what is rough fun treatment

there is no evidence of how theyd do with only a father

kids also need like-minded peers

the problem is with a subjective legal system that predominantly believes women at the expense of men.

yeah and that women bulshit is bad

the more i learn about things that happen the less i want to go into relationship

might as well join the MGTOW squad gang xD

yeah the psychology is important. if a man is angry he is more likely to use physical means to get back at you and woman is more likely to use other means

such as character assassination

not in relationships he isnt.

no in general

MGTOW is a last resort. I think your first resort should be looking for a trad wife.

Men do damage in something you can put a price-tag on

Women will shit on your soul

domestic violence, physical violence, is more commonly perpetrated by women on men than the other way around

yeah but they are adviced to use physical violence because they know that man cannot defends themselves against a woman unless she uses a weapon

yes but men are trained from young to never hit women

or something to justify why he hit her

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/

women dont reagard themselves being violent to a man as violence

those are soy-men

theres plenty of good reasons to hit a woman

just not any reason 😉

it's called reverse psychology Dr.Wol 😉

Feminists shouldn't benefit from the taboo against hitting women.

they shouldnt i agree

nobody should

there shouldnt be such a taboo

women should be taught they can cause pain and its wrong

some people just need a good clocking out, theres no "should" or "shouldn't"

women are from young age taught that the violence against men isnt violence because they cant do any serios damage