Message from @LittleGiantJ

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2019-01-02 18:21:46 UTC  

i identify as christian but i dont support the way it is done

2019-01-02 18:21:54 UTC  

@GoldenPhoenix they are going back to manuscripts written in the language it was originally written in. People routinely go back to the original language to help interpret.

2019-01-02 18:21:55 UTC  

then isn't it possible for one christian to have a different interpretation than another?

2019-01-02 18:22:06 UTC  

how Christians " interpret" the Bible changes from christian to christian, domination to domination, congregation to congregation, and bible version to bible version

Like, One of the apps I got does this for phrases that would be out of context due to translation

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/530088420027138050/Screenshot_20190102-102131_Gospel_Library.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/530088420027138051/Screenshot_20190102-102118_Gospel_Library.jpg

2019-01-02 18:22:08 UTC  

yes it is @Paradox

2019-01-02 18:22:44 UTC  

to some extent, from bible translation to bible translation

2019-01-02 18:22:47 UTC  

yes, but here's the problem: time differences. every time a new translation is made, even if you have an expert on the subject, the way our modern language differs from the original languages bleeds through

2019-01-02 18:23:03 UTC  

it's still a giant game of telephone

2019-01-02 18:23:07 UTC  

yeah

2019-01-02 18:23:15 UTC  

You forgot the most important part @GoldenPhoenix

2019-01-02 18:23:22 UTC  

The Intent of the Translator.

2019-01-02 18:23:24 UTC  

there is a reason you have Bible scholars. people who study it all the time.

2019-01-02 18:23:28 UTC  

@Kibec I personally know several Christians who have learned to read the original language the scriptures were written in.

2019-01-02 18:23:39 UTC  

the creation story itself was told orally as tradition until it was written down a couple thousand years BC

2019-01-02 18:23:43 UTC  

i think most of the original meaning was lost centuries ago

2019-01-02 18:23:51 UTC  

there is a lot of research you need to do to go from the original writing to making it make sense in current language

2019-01-02 18:24:01 UTC  

I like AMP, gives context where a verse would typically seem to mean something totally different in English

2019-01-02 18:24:12 UTC  

@Salacious Swanky Cat good for you ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

2019-01-02 18:24:19 UTC  

YE-Creationism is *requires* Evolution to be wrong. Evolution provides an alternative to Bibical Creation. It's not the friggin fossil record they throw out; it's the whole damn science book...

I'm blanking I'm a physics guy

2019-01-02 18:24:49 UTC  

@GoldenPhoenix no it isnโ€™t. Lol. Itโ€™s literally going from the original language straight to English. Hardly some giant game of telephone. Try learning more about translations before you assert things.

2019-01-02 18:25:21 UTC  

i assume this is what AMP is referring to

2019-01-02 18:25:23 UTC  

and the thing about understanding of Bible from Christian to Christian is the same for other religions too

2019-01-02 18:25:24 UTC  

@GoldenPhoenix most of it was written 6th century bc actually

2019-01-02 18:25:27 UTC  

I was raised Christan.

2019-01-02 18:25:28 UTC  

@LittleGiantJ no they donโ€™t throw all of science out. Sheesh.

2019-01-02 18:25:31 UTC  

I know this.

2019-01-02 18:25:34 UTC  

see Muslims for exaple

2019-01-02 18:25:45 UTC  

you're missing the point. the same piece of language translated at different points in history would come out with different meanings based on the method of translation and the common vernacular at the time

2019-01-02 18:25:51 UTC  

Yeah, they cherry pick what supports them; and call everything else a lie.

2019-01-02 18:26:21 UTC  

@LittleGiantJ you donโ€™t know youโ€™re talking about. Lol.

2019-01-02 18:26:28 UTC  

@Salacious Swanky Cat but they throw most of it out of window

2019-01-02 18:26:42 UTC  

not all

2019-01-02 18:26:48 UTC  

@Salacious Swanky Cat you're just calling people liars by now XD

2019-01-02 18:26:52 UTC  

@Kibec no they donโ€™t. Lol. Itโ€™s pretty much just the fossil record.

2019-01-02 18:27:07 UTC  

@GoldenPhoenix what do you mean?

2019-01-02 18:27:14 UTC  

Yes Grenade

2019-01-02 18:27:20 UTC  

@Salacious Swanky Cat in middle ages they were very anti-science guys