@ExceptionalFeather so what you been up 2 my dood

@ExceptionalFeather i know it works the other way too. SJWs are usually horrible and my family would be what i consider Christians who actually practice what they preach.

Where did I say I was a better person? I just said that there is a difference between "I'm angry with you but I'm not going to kill you because God says it's wrong"; and "I'm angry with you, but I'm not going to kill you because killing you would bring tragedy to your loved ones, possibly leave theose dependent on you to starve, and it would bring pointless conflict."

those are seperate issues

That would also depend on what god you get.
The bible is full of wrath

@Walsp Not much friend, gettting ready for my next semester in uni, got to see some family for the holidays, and help nurse a couple of friends that got wasted for new years

@LittleGiantJ because you are implying that Christians don’t use both reasons and you posit that your reason is superior.

i don't think we pinged Exceptional enough

@taekahn seems you only read 1 part of it

I had this mindset even when I was a Christian.

here I'll do it @ExceptionalFeather

lol

I looked for secular reasoning on the subject.

Point out a fact means i've onlylearned that fact and nothing more?

if 1 rule overides another .it ammends it

seriously, tho, if you need somebody to tell you that certain things is bad or else you wouldn't know for yourself, you're either under the age of 10, or mentally ill

@LittleGiantJ sure you did. Lol. You can’t prove any morals without borrowing the Christian worldview.

Well, it depends on the valuesystem you grew up with.

not true, you can look at it with utilitarianism

the bible has a reason to try to teach you not to lie and be honest

Which is the philosophy I was using

christian worldviews are just a shorthand

Doesn't change one lick of anything i said

anyone asking about things is either to Reafirm his or her own beliefs or the question others

the whole book ?

no

it still incorrect

```christian worldviews are just a shorthand```
The alternative is worse...

If that was the case we would be just like islam

I didn't say its the whole book, did i

you said the bible

you didnt specify

that means the whole book

You can't just tear down the bridge to cross a river because the bridge is crap and not think about how to cross it when the bridge is gone.

exactly THAT is what the radical Atheist did.

Did i say "its entirely wrath"?
No.

Ok, then not the whole thing

Because people want to cross the River, so they invent their ways to cross it.

@LittleGiantJ so you are using the Christian worldview to establish your moral system while criticizing the fact that God is the basis for morality. Seriously. You haven’t thought this out.

This shit is what gave us the radical leftist ideologs.

You can prove christian worldview without borrowing from paganism