Message from @Walsp
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Money will always be money
It's about how beneficial it is to society as a whole.
@LittleGiantJ utilitarianism is a failed ideology.
@Salacious Swanky Cat. How so?
the Word never . you only do NEVER is when money is involved
With anything related to Family or Friends
@Salacious Swanky Cat I agree with you that morality is based in deity, but I'm saying it doesn't have to be. true materialism treats everything as a simulation, and if there's no free will and it's all chemicals, the results will be the same
Not always based on Deity
so Buddhists have no morals?
buddhists?
Morality is not linked to Religion
@LittleGiantJ if utilitarianism is about benefiting the most people, where does that leave the minority? Oppressed. Under utilitarianism, you can’t treat everyone equally.
hindus? one of those indo-china religions has no gods
What is seen as Moral is different culture wide
I believe in absolute morality in conjunct with social morality
some things are universally bad, while others are simply social
i apologize to anyone who happens to practice any of those for my ignorance
too bad Shiva isn't here
do you have freedom of speech ?
anything i said on this discord could end me up in prison
@GoldenPhoenix wrong. Morality needs God to function. The atheistic worldview will never produce a consistent moral system. It’s impossible because of how that worldview works.
hope you have a vpn
No . goverments too busy stealing from tax payers to monitor them
@Salacious Swanky Cat you do know there are religions without gods right?
Pagans ?
Animism
We have ancestor worshippers here
they just believe in Revenge
pagans have deities
you have pagans who dont
believe in elements
consistency is not required, as shown by religious morality failing miserably throughout history
@Grenade123 what is the impersonal absolute that they are based on?
well depends on how you define deity really
yeah
if you see nature as a mother god
There can be morals without religion, I just don't trust the general population to be ready for it atm and who knows when if ever
And then you have those who devide that into Different elements
works for some though