Message from @Paradox
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28 percent of road fatalities
I feel like what is classified as impairing needs to be further elaborated on by lawmakers. Even with some flushed out examples, I feel there needs to be more defining details.
Are caused by drunk drivers
At least it was in 2016
It fluctuates yearly
you also have to account for the different levels of intoxication
So, you are still more likely to die in an accident that isn't related to drunk driving.
Yes, but driving in a way that increases the chances of a wreck is illegal
I actually agree with paradox, I drive impaired all the time.
I'm ***not*** a better driver impaired, but i do drive with more care and deliberation.
I would also not drive if i thought i was too impaired.
but the laws cant be written that way.
Laws need to be black and white.
Reckless and careless driving are both charges
Should they be?
Yes
Where's the victim there?
well we're not really talking about what the law is
we're more talking about what the law should be
The people who are hit by people being negligent
But no1 was hit?
It's a preventative law
Right. A victimless law.
I'd rather see laws around cell phone usage.
Much worse than drving drunk, imo
That's like saying you can't arrest someone until they have shot a guy even though there's a gun to the dudes head
until after they shot him and he died.
You can arrest them for battery
but is there a victim before he pulled the trigger?
Yes
i'd say yes too
Yes. There is a victim.
That's why your little metaphor was bogus.
which metaphor?
How is threatening others on the road with your car not the same
Well you've escalated it
If you drive reckless and threaten others safety by doing so, it's no different
And you should be removed from the road as a result
yeah i think i agree that if you threaten the safety of others, you produce victims
a driver who was nearly hit by a drunk driver, is not a victim of a crash, but a victim of something
I don't agree. Unless the threat is reasonable.
Who determines that
Me. Beings it's my opinion...
That's not how it works
That is how my opinion works and what i agree with or not....
Yes but that doesn't make it inherently true