Message from @NativeInterface

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2019-01-04 16:51:58 UTC  

Being in a busier town also increases your chances.

2019-01-04 16:51:59 UTC  

Which includes being sleepy

2019-01-04 16:52:16 UTC  

Sleepiness is harder to account for though.

2019-01-04 16:52:28 UTC  

If you fall asleep at the wheel, you can be charged

2019-01-04 16:52:33 UTC  

Also, sleepness is impossible to prove after the fact.

2019-01-04 16:52:42 UTC  

adreniline kicks in after an accident

2019-01-04 16:52:45 UTC  

aint sleepy no more

2019-01-04 16:52:52 UTC  

i think the general argument provided is that the difference in risk compared to normal accepted risk should be significant

2019-01-04 16:53:02 UTC  

They can charge you with reckless driving based on the accident forensics

2019-01-04 16:53:29 UTC  

Yes, but I'm talking moreso about prevention of sleepiness, which is sleep. You can't exactly force someone to sleep either, especially if they have a demanding position that requires long hours.

2019-01-04 16:53:37 UTC  

how significant drunk driving is in comparison is up for debate
but it kind of seems significant to me
but i dunno

2019-01-04 16:53:56 UTC  

In general, impaired driving should be illegal

2019-01-04 16:54:04 UTC  

Which includes drunk driving

2019-01-04 16:54:05 UTC  

How many card accidents are directly caused by drunk drivers and what percentage is that of total car accidents?

2019-01-04 16:54:48 UTC  

See, I disagree. I think impaired driving is fine. Until you hit someone or something.

2019-01-04 16:54:48 UTC  

28 percent of road fatalities

2019-01-04 16:54:57 UTC  

I feel like what is classified as impairing needs to be further elaborated on by lawmakers. Even with some flushed out examples, I feel there needs to be more defining details.

2019-01-04 16:54:58 UTC  

Are caused by drunk drivers

2019-01-04 16:55:49 UTC  

At least it was in 2016

2019-01-04 16:55:56 UTC  

It fluctuates yearly

2019-01-04 16:56:17 UTC  

you also have to account for the different levels of intoxication

2019-01-04 16:56:28 UTC  

So, you are still more likely to die in an accident that isn't related to drunk driving.

2019-01-04 16:57:10 UTC  

Yes, but driving in a way that increases the chances of a wreck is illegal

2019-01-04 16:57:17 UTC  

I actually agree with paradox, I drive impaired all the time.
I'm ***not*** a better driver impaired, but i do drive with more care and deliberation.
I would also not drive if i thought i was too impaired.
but the laws cant be written that way.
Laws need to be black and white.

2019-01-04 16:57:21 UTC  

Reckless and careless driving are both charges

2019-01-04 16:57:34 UTC  

Should they be?

2019-01-04 16:57:37 UTC  

Yes

2019-01-04 16:57:40 UTC  

Where's the victim there?

2019-01-04 16:57:51 UTC  

well we're not really talking about what the law is
we're more talking about what the law should be

2019-01-04 16:57:54 UTC  

The people who are hit by people being negligent

2019-01-04 16:58:09 UTC  

But no1 was hit?

2019-01-04 16:58:17 UTC  

It's a preventative law

2019-01-04 16:58:27 UTC  

Right. A victimless law.

2019-01-04 16:58:32 UTC  

I'd rather see laws around cell phone usage.
Much worse than drving drunk, imo

2019-01-04 16:58:57 UTC  

That's like saying you can't arrest someone until they have shot a guy even though there's a gun to the dudes head

2019-01-04 16:59:12 UTC  

Well you couldn't arrest them for murder...

2019-01-04 16:59:19 UTC  

until after they shot him and he died.

2019-01-04 16:59:23 UTC  

You can arrest them for battery

2019-01-04 16:59:28 UTC  

but is there a victim before he pulled the trigger?

2019-01-04 16:59:32 UTC  

Yes

2019-01-04 16:59:35 UTC  

i'd say yes too