Message from @Heteronymus Bosch

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2019-01-23 16:59:25 UTC  

Can't even recall his name!

2019-01-23 16:59:29 UTC  

Yep.

2019-01-23 16:59:34 UTC  

Famous for "Stop the Boats"

2019-01-23 16:59:47 UTC  

I stopped paying attention a couple of years ago, to be fair.

2019-01-23 17:00:03 UTC  

Morrison? Isn't that Abbott/Howard?

2019-01-23 17:00:08 UTC  

He is pretty well known domestically

2019-01-23 17:00:32 UTC  

Essentially Malcolm Turnbull got rolled in a leadership spill

2019-01-23 17:00:49 UTC  

And instead of voting for the dude who wanted him gone he voted for one of his cabinet

2019-01-23 17:00:55 UTC  

The fact that the Labor party is still somewhat beholden to the Aus working class will hopefully mean that they understand that they can't go full SJW.

2019-01-23 17:01:26 UTC  

They still preference the Greens before the Libs\

2019-01-23 17:01:35 UTC  

But I admit I'm not paying attention.

2019-01-23 17:01:39 UTC  

And the greens are full blown radical lefties

2019-01-23 17:01:48 UTC  

To be honest, probably all my friends vote green by now.

2019-01-23 17:02:56 UTC  

I wouldn't mind the greens if they were actually environmentalists, but they sabotaged the market-based emissions scheme, and roll a whole lot of bullshit into what should be a pretty simple platform.

2019-01-23 17:03:24 UTC  

I liked Bob Brown as a person, but couldn't abide that he was constantly going on about everywhere but Australia.

2019-01-23 17:03:32 UTC  

Well people like Sarah Hanson-Young push the greens ever further left

2019-01-23 17:03:54 UTC  

There is no reason why environmentalism needs to be left wing, IMO.

2019-01-23 17:04:12 UTC  

In fact, it seems a logical cause for someone who considers themselves conservative.

2019-01-23 17:04:45 UTC  

Conservatives would be fine with it but the amount of govt subsidies given to renewables makes it not feasible

2019-01-23 17:04:58 UTC  

Alan Jones is on about that stuff all the time

2019-01-23 17:05:00 UTC  

What do you mean?

2019-01-23 17:05:09 UTC  

Also i need to make this clear. I am not in defense of the elites. Just giving out a question. If it sounds like im defending then you dont understand the concept that i for one aint liking the playbook they use

2019-01-23 17:05:15 UTC  

The tech needs a kcikstart before the market can take oevr.

2019-01-23 17:05:30 UTC  

And Oz is the one place where renewables would actually work well.

2019-01-23 17:05:35 UTC  

Or one of the places.

2019-01-23 17:05:40 UTC  

TEXAS HAS MORE WIND ENERGY THAN THE ENTIRE NATION HAS SOLAR YOU GUYD

2019-01-23 17:05:41 UTC  

It has basically everything.

2019-01-23 17:05:53 UTC  

Renewable energy is far more expensive than coal generation right now

2019-01-23 17:06:07 UTC  

Sure. But it won't be once the tech is mature.

2019-01-23 17:06:07 UTC  

Power costs have skyrocketed especially in Vic because of it

2019-01-23 17:06:18 UTC  

yeah but Australia can afford to wait

2019-01-23 17:06:23 UTC  

And that's where state intervention helps.

2019-01-23 17:06:26 UTC  

If the tech ever has enough ppl u mean

2019-01-23 17:06:34 UTC  

Since u knlw education and what not

2019-01-23 17:06:40 UTC  

But state intervention has lead to year on year 200% power price increases

2019-01-23 17:06:45 UTC  

more in victoria

2019-01-23 17:06:51 UTC  

Well that's bad policy.

2019-01-23 17:06:58 UTC  

Renewable energy can play havoc with animal populations though

2019-01-23 17:07:10 UTC  

well the whole wind farms do chop up birds

2019-01-23 17:07:17 UTC  

The original carbon trading scheme wasn't necessarily bad policy.

2019-01-23 17:07:29 UTC  

IIRC hydroelectric also causes problems with fish, especially salmon