Message from @Maddie

Discord ID: 538031836484599818


2019-01-24 16:24:21 UTC  

whatever, maybe that rule is dumb

2019-01-24 16:24:21 UTC  

not only do you fight against evil

2019-01-24 16:24:27 UTC  

but you show mercy too

2019-01-24 16:24:28 UTC  

but thats not the golden rule because you misunderstand it. You are adding an extra step, which is that people would be intellectually dishonest. But the rule isnt β€œ treat others the way you say you want to be treated” its how you would actually want to be treated. The fact that some ppl would lie about what they would do has no bearing on the fact that you should go about life with empathy

2019-01-24 16:24:40 UTC  

Does tim ever do general streams, i.e. not ones directly related to a video he puts out

2019-01-24 16:24:53 UTC  

how is that different maddie?

2019-01-24 16:25:00 UTC  

@Dr.Wol that was πŸ‘ŒπŸ»

2019-01-24 16:25:09 UTC  

it's different because your interpretation puts you as a different person

2019-01-24 16:25:10 UTC  

"If i was a nazi, i'd want to be treated harshly"

But since i'm not, i get to punch nazi's cuz i'm not as evil as them!

2019-01-24 16:25:24 UTC  

the golden rule has nothing to do with evil and mercy

2019-01-24 16:25:32 UTC  

It'd certainly be nice to see Tim on Beauty and the Beta again sometime soon

2019-01-24 16:25:35 UTC  

don't know how likely that is

2019-01-24 16:25:39 UTC  

but thats lying, because if the person was an actual nazi they wouldnt believe that

2019-01-24 16:25:55 UTC  

They are lying to themselves

2019-01-24 16:25:57 UTC  

and thats the problem isn't it? πŸ˜‰

2019-01-24 16:26:01 UTC  

They don't realise THEY are the nazis

2019-01-24 16:26:05 UTC  

No they're not, they're incapable of seeing others' points of view

2019-01-24 16:26:07 UTC  

they're not lying, they're oblivious

2019-01-24 16:26:19 UTC  

"Anti-Facisist groups" have interventions, "Neo-NAZI" have hate mobs

2019-01-24 16:26:24 UTC  

that's what I said, have they never looked in a mirror

2019-01-24 16:26:25 UTC  

yes but you are conflating lying to oneself with lack of empathy

2019-01-24 16:26:33 UTC  

they don't lack empathy

2019-01-24 16:26:37 UTC  

They do

2019-01-24 16:26:40 UTC  

they are very empathic, to themselves

2019-01-24 16:26:46 UTC  

All is me

2019-01-24 16:26:48 UTC  

that's not empathy

2019-01-24 16:26:49 UTC  

Thats not empathy

2019-01-24 16:26:50 UTC  

All for me, none for thee

2019-01-24 16:26:53 UTC  

that's selfishness

2019-01-24 16:26:55 UTC  

Are you daft?

2019-01-24 16:27:03 UTC  

Narcasism it the term for that

2019-01-24 16:27:05 UTC  

so why do they see it differently? πŸ˜‰

2019-01-24 16:27:12 UTC  

WE (you and me) know its not true

2019-01-24 16:27:13 UTC  

but they do

2019-01-24 16:27:17 UTC  

empathy is putting yourself in _someone else's shoes_ and coming to their understanding

2019-01-24 16:27:35 UTC  

you're assuming he meant themselves as individuals and not as a group

2019-01-24 16:27:38 UTC  

Media: He's a Nazi
An intellectual: Don't discriminate minorities

2019-01-24 16:27:45 UTC  

HOT TAKE

2019-01-24 16:28:03 UTC  

I'm stealing that

2019-01-24 16:28:05 UTC  

I kinda understand what Dr. Wol is saying. They *do* see themselves as some sort of "othered" outsiders, so they're able to project their own views into others and then empathize with those perceived identical people

2019-01-24 16:28:09 UTC  

You seen those people @Matt-Kill723 ?

They're fat enough to mistake their own ass for a 2nd person