Message from @Samer

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2019-01-29 13:09:42 UTC  

not sure if satire or not <:TimThink:482277772497125378>

2019-01-29 13:10:10 UTC  

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2019-01-29 13:12:58 UTC  

although by proximity to the point of origin, they sure looks like to have a better legitimacy than the american christianity.

2019-01-29 13:14:30 UTC  

definitely.

2019-01-29 13:15:14 UTC  

tfw mudslimes are so violent the shia and sunni have been at war since the day muhammad died

2019-01-29 13:18:07 UTC  

and there will never be an islamic feformation like with christianity or Judaism

2019-01-29 13:18:55 UTC  

it's an awkward history

2019-01-29 13:19:12 UTC  

i can explain it if you want. @Maddie

2019-01-29 13:19:40 UTC  

i know some of it but go ahead because theres definitely a lot i dont know

2019-01-29 13:19:56 UTC  

so back when muhammad was alive

2019-01-29 13:20:04 UTC  

there weren't shia, sunni and other groups

2019-01-29 13:20:37 UTC  

after some wars and conquests

2019-01-29 13:20:40 UTC  

spreading islam

2019-01-29 13:20:46 UTC  

muhammed died

2019-01-29 13:20:59 UTC  

and the rashid caliphate began

2019-01-29 13:21:46 UTC  

Abu Bakir ruled first as muhammed assigned him

2019-01-29 13:22:00 UTC  

2nd caliphate was Omar ibn Alkhattab

2019-01-29 13:22:10 UTC  

3rd one was Othman bin Affan

2019-01-29 13:22:35 UTC  

and the 4th and last one was Ali bin abi Taleb ( muhammed's cousin)

2019-01-29 13:22:56 UTC  

muslim confirmed

2019-01-29 13:23:07 UTC  

and back during the Rashid caliphate they assigned the caliph with a council that choose them

2019-01-29 13:23:59 UTC  

however there was 1 count that really wanted the caliphate, Muawiyyah I which overthrew Ali and tricked him

2019-01-29 13:24:18 UTC  

the Shia are the group that believe that Ali was still the Legitimate caliph

2019-01-29 13:24:28 UTC  

while Sunnis followed Muawiyyah

2019-01-29 13:24:52 UTC  

the event was also known as the 1st Fitna

2019-01-29 13:25:33 UTC  

which is a series of a few battles and an arbitration where Ali was basically robbed from his caliphate.

2019-01-29 13:25:48 UTC  

@Maddie and that's it

2019-01-29 13:26:02 UTC  

thank you

2019-01-29 13:26:03 UTC  

most schools of thought in islam happened because of incidents like that

2019-01-29 13:26:12 UTC  

where they argued about who should be the caliphate

2019-01-29 13:26:19 UTC  

where did wahhabism come from

2019-01-29 13:26:24 UTC  

or however its spelled

2019-01-29 13:27:31 UTC  

wahhabism was a group of sunnis that followed Muhammed bin Abd Alwahhab during the 18th century

2019-01-29 13:28:00 UTC  

which was a religious sheikh that researched the religion

2019-01-29 13:29:15 UTC  

**ThreeOfOne#5966** just left the server.

2019-01-29 13:29:20 UTC  

he advocated violent methods and false? (at least in my opinion) interpertations of the Quran

2019-01-29 13:33:57 UTC  

i guess you could say they're an ethnic nationalist ultra conservative Muslims. @Maddie

2019-01-29 13:34:01 UTC  

vaguely put.

2019-01-29 13:34:42 UTC  

yeah i figured a s much

2019-01-29 13:34:52 UTC  

they seem to be the most dangerous group