Message from @LokiReap

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2019-01-31 20:28:07 UTC  

Unless you add, chemical dispersion packets to a mortar type situation

2019-01-31 20:29:04 UTC  

Thats the maximum about of damage they can inflict is using cars

2019-01-31 20:29:58 UTC  

Everything else carries large amounts of risk that the attack will be stopped before it occurs

2019-01-31 20:30:12 UTC  

I think a chemical attack or pathogen release in the week before black friday would cause a lot of economic damage. Just have to make it look like theres more coming. Major economic blow there

2019-01-31 20:30:32 UTC  

Sounds like someone played Tom Clancy's Division

2019-01-31 20:31:31 UTC  

Thats actually based out of a wargame played out in Kansas back in the 90s. It was a smallpox outbreak to see how local and federal agencies would work. Turns out they didnt.

2019-01-31 20:31:40 UTC  

they even made fake news reports for that

2019-01-31 20:32:22 UTC  

actually i was wrong it was 3 months before 9/11

2019-01-31 20:32:37 UTC  

so june of 2001

2019-01-31 20:32:50 UTC  

you can actually watch the local news report they taped. and yes june 22-23

2019-01-31 20:33:42 UTC  

if youve got a link handy put it in fake news

2019-01-31 20:34:51 UTC  

But again this is a very complicated process to manufacture the virus and that doesnt even deal with the problem of keeping it alive or dispersing it in a populated area

2019-01-31 20:35:01 UTC  

Meh chemical would work

2019-01-31 20:35:29 UTC  

That means a lot of lead time, a lot of purchases and a hell of a delay between starting the process committing the attack

2019-01-31 20:35:36 UTC  

A whole lot of windup, but a much worse punch

2019-01-31 20:35:50 UTC  

Chemicals that harm are easy to make

2019-01-31 20:35:57 UTC  

and can be store bought,

2019-01-31 20:36:45 UTC  

mustard gas from cleaning agents, phosgene from refrigerant, chlorine gas from pressurized containers. Isnt too hard.

2019-01-31 20:37:48 UTC  

No, but what is hard is not killing oneself with it

2019-01-31 20:38:06 UTC  

The main point isnt casualties but the fear of casualties. Fear is the most potent weapon a terrorist can use

2019-01-31 20:38:52 UTC  

Right and thats where the schools of thought diverge

2019-01-31 20:41:15 UTC  

Pewdiepie is sponsored by Nutaku again

2019-01-31 20:41:17 UTC  

Fear of a worse punch vs fear of a bunch of punches

2019-01-31 20:41:52 UTC  

Super terrorism executed by organized cells compared vs lone wolves

2019-01-31 20:41:55 UTC  

I think a general rule today with media cycles the way they are. The fear of multiple punches does way better than one big hit.

2019-01-31 20:42:22 UTC  

Cause one big hit will cause fear at some locations. Hit a bunch of smaller targets, no one feels safe

2019-01-31 20:43:08 UTC  

Yea, that explains part of the reason for the move toward lone wolf attacks

2019-01-31 20:44:07 UTC  

Thats why if you hit mid sized towns shopping venues (outlet malls, bus depots, smaller regional airports) everyone is now a target. That can cause a lot more economic damage than one big hit in say New York or LA. Hit small town USA and the fear goes everywhere

2019-01-31 20:45:31 UTC  

Also less security too, higher chance of success

2019-01-31 20:45:41 UTC  

Right, that was the idea behind the wargame

2019-01-31 20:46:12 UTC  

Also that wargame was a shit show

2019-01-31 20:46:23 UTC  

A lot of agencies failed it

2019-01-31 20:46:31 UTC  

As is often the case

2019-01-31 20:46:31 UTC  

Which isnt suprising

2019-01-31 20:46:45 UTC  

Agreed

2019-01-31 20:49:34 UTC  

Like how would a small town hospital deal with an surge of patients with chemical agents. The firefighters and paramedics wouldnt have the equipment to take precautions causing more casualties in the beginning before a command structure on scene would come about

2019-01-31 20:50:55 UTC  

Fuck this would be a mess

2019-01-31 20:51:58 UTC  

Assuming that agent lingers until the first responders arrive yes

2019-01-31 20:52:14 UTC  

Most agents dissipate fairly quickly

2019-01-31 20:52:31 UTC  

Most chemical agents need a washdown. Others are worse when you wash down.