Message from @LokiReap

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2019-01-31 20:11:54 UTC  

I mean im not too sure how to purify gasses by weight, so making phosgene gas would be a bitch. But explosives are pretty easy. Just be careful not to smoke

2019-01-31 20:12:06 UTC  

Density is a better word

2019-01-31 20:16:41 UTC  

Dumb terrorists use guns and cars, they get caught and then try to use insanity please. The gargasoula guy (lone wolf meth head, first car terrorist attack in Melbourne, likely lefty who tried to connect it to islamism) is currently claiming he's just a victim.

2019-01-31 20:17:57 UTC  

Smart terrorists will target your infrastructure, fabricate food tampering problems or just fake a whole heap of aerosoled attacks

2019-01-31 20:18:50 UTC  

Disrupt the flow of normal life and you get mass panic which makes the original attack that much more damaging

2019-01-31 20:25:58 UTC  

Dumb and smart are useless when describing terrorists

2019-01-31 20:26:42 UTC  

The strategy they use determines effectiveness rather than their intent

2019-01-31 20:27:18 UTC  

With lone wolves its nearly impossible to execute a large scale attack like the ones your describing because it requires coordination

2019-01-31 20:27:41 UTC  

Only explosives aren't very effective, it causes a lot of panic and shock but usually you'd have to stand right next to them to die

2019-01-31 20:27:47 UTC  

Cars are horrific

2019-01-31 20:27:58 UTC  

Everyone owns one or has access to one

2019-01-31 20:28:07 UTC  

Unless you add, chemical dispersion packets to a mortar type situation

2019-01-31 20:29:04 UTC  

Thats the maximum about of damage they can inflict is using cars

2019-01-31 20:29:58 UTC  

Everything else carries large amounts of risk that the attack will be stopped before it occurs

2019-01-31 20:30:12 UTC  

I think a chemical attack or pathogen release in the week before black friday would cause a lot of economic damage. Just have to make it look like theres more coming. Major economic blow there

2019-01-31 20:30:32 UTC  

Sounds like someone played Tom Clancy's Division

2019-01-31 20:31:31 UTC  

Thats actually based out of a wargame played out in Kansas back in the 90s. It was a smallpox outbreak to see how local and federal agencies would work. Turns out they didnt.

2019-01-31 20:31:40 UTC  

they even made fake news reports for that

2019-01-31 20:32:22 UTC  

actually i was wrong it was 3 months before 9/11

2019-01-31 20:32:37 UTC  

so june of 2001

2019-01-31 20:32:50 UTC  

you can actually watch the local news report they taped. and yes june 22-23

2019-01-31 20:33:42 UTC  

if youve got a link handy put it in fake news

2019-01-31 20:34:51 UTC  

But again this is a very complicated process to manufacture the virus and that doesnt even deal with the problem of keeping it alive or dispersing it in a populated area

2019-01-31 20:35:01 UTC  

Meh chemical would work

2019-01-31 20:35:29 UTC  

That means a lot of lead time, a lot of purchases and a hell of a delay between starting the process committing the attack

2019-01-31 20:35:36 UTC  

A whole lot of windup, but a much worse punch

2019-01-31 20:35:50 UTC  

Chemicals that harm are easy to make

2019-01-31 20:35:57 UTC  

and can be store bought,

2019-01-31 20:36:45 UTC  

mustard gas from cleaning agents, phosgene from refrigerant, chlorine gas from pressurized containers. Isnt too hard.

2019-01-31 20:37:48 UTC  

No, but what is hard is not killing oneself with it

2019-01-31 20:38:06 UTC  

The main point isnt casualties but the fear of casualties. Fear is the most potent weapon a terrorist can use

2019-01-31 20:38:52 UTC  

Right and thats where the schools of thought diverge

2019-01-31 20:41:15 UTC  

Pewdiepie is sponsored by Nutaku again

2019-01-31 20:41:17 UTC  

Fear of a worse punch vs fear of a bunch of punches

2019-01-31 20:41:52 UTC  

Super terrorism executed by organized cells compared vs lone wolves

2019-01-31 20:41:55 UTC  

I think a general rule today with media cycles the way they are. The fear of multiple punches does way better than one big hit.

2019-01-31 20:42:22 UTC  

Cause one big hit will cause fear at some locations. Hit a bunch of smaller targets, no one feels safe

2019-01-31 20:43:08 UTC  

Yea, that explains part of the reason for the move toward lone wolf attacks

2019-01-31 20:44:07 UTC  

Thats why if you hit mid sized towns shopping venues (outlet malls, bus depots, smaller regional airports) everyone is now a target. That can cause a lot more economic damage than one big hit in say New York or LA. Hit small town USA and the fear goes everywhere

2019-01-31 20:45:31 UTC  

Also less security too, higher chance of success