Message from @Maddie

Discord ID: 544521940807843861


2019-02-11 14:13:04 UTC  

I can show you conviction rates?

2019-02-11 14:13:06 UTC  

you guys are trolling eachother

2019-02-11 14:13:10 UTC  

If that's what you mean

2019-02-11 14:13:20 UTC  

how would we go about finding out the crime rate

2019-02-11 14:13:23 UTC  

@Aghost we also dont know that people who were never incarcerated or convicted didnt commit acrime, either.

2019-02-11 14:13:24 UTC  

Cody thinks it cant be done

2019-02-11 14:13:40 UTC  

"we are not sure, therefor whatever!" nice arguments

2019-02-11 14:13:44 UTC  

You cant estimate crime rates

2019-02-11 14:14:05 UTC  

But unless you at the seen of EVERY SINGLE CRIME and recorded it

2019-02-11 14:14:06 UTC  

"yeah the incarceration rate of blacks i like... 10 times higher... but that doesnt mean they are more criminal ... i mean... what if they made an error"

2019-02-11 14:14:09 UTC  

t.cody

2019-02-11 14:14:22 UTC  

And know EVERY SINGLE GUILTY criminal

2019-02-11 14:14:22 UTC  

"nobody knows... really"

2019-02-11 14:14:29 UTC  

@Aghost thats not what he was saying.

2019-02-11 14:14:35 UTC  

it is what he is saying

2019-02-11 14:14:37 UTC  

in essence

2019-02-11 14:14:39 UTC  

no

2019-02-11 14:15:15 UTC  

the main point i think was use convictions not incarceration rate

2019-02-11 14:15:20 UTC  

Then how do you prove crime rates

2019-02-11 14:15:43 UTC  

how many shark attacks are there each year?
- "well nobody knows, sometimes its not a shark, its ... some other fish. so we cant be sure" t.cody

2019-02-11 14:15:47 UTC  

Wha other metric would you use

2019-02-11 14:15:47 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/544521942888087563/unknown.png

2019-02-11 14:15:51 UTC  

Conviction is a closer judge of crime rates

2019-02-11 14:15:56 UTC  

Still not 100%

2019-02-11 14:16:07 UTC  

But way better than incarceration rates

2019-02-11 14:16:30 UTC  

but

2019-02-11 14:16:38 UTC  

you think the crime ratee, is something that can never be known?

2019-02-11 14:16:43 UTC  

like quantum physics

2019-02-11 14:16:44 UTC  

all people who commit crimes are criminals

2019-02-11 14:16:45 UTC  

Incarceration is used for anyone in prison

2019-02-11 14:16:53 UTC  

Or in jail

2019-02-11 14:16:57 UTC  

but what are you trying to say

2019-02-11 14:17:00 UTC  

Im sure male feminists have high incarceration rates, too. In that case there is a quite obvious reason for false incarceration (while rapists probably would also be attracted to feminism)

2019-02-11 14:17:03 UTC  

You could still be awaiting trial

2019-02-11 14:17:14 UTC  

Which means you have not been FOUND guilty yet

2019-02-11 14:17:25 UTC  

but they are criminals... right?
unless something went wrong with the process?

2019-02-11 14:17:38 UTC  

ye 99% chance they did something

2019-02-11 14:17:41 UTC  

so you are ... leaning on an error? to prove that blacks arent really that criminal?

2019-02-11 14:17:43 UTC  

or something?

2019-02-11 14:17:49 UTC  

ur argument is really really weak

2019-02-11 14:17:52 UTC  

No, a criminal is someone who is found GUILTY of a crime