Message from @Piolun
Discord ID: 544675682622505001
since 2007
I literally don't care about Europe
we're talking about American security
@RekItRalph You claimed that illegals pay into Social Security and Medicare and will never receive benefits. So you are suggesting that when Trump is defeated in 2020 and Democrats amnesty all of them and make them citizens that you will oppose them receiving their benefits. I find that cruel.
yeah no sht because EU/Asia will be coming freely there
I do not like illegal immigrants. I DO however accept LEGAL immigrants.
@CasualSailor Yeah, it sounds like that the only argument that illegal imigrants are net-benefitiary is because they are basically 2nd class citizens (for the first 10 years) that are paying and not rescieving.
Yet they recieve.
also while 10% might work like decent human being there most people will just kidnapp rape and make human trafficking business because it surely pays alot!
How do you go from "You claimed that illegals pay into Social Security and Medicare and will never receive benefits. " to "So you are suggesting that when Trump is defeated in 2020 and Democrats amnesty all of them and make them citizens that you will oppose them receiving their benefits. I find that cruel."
Why do you think we want to make them all citizens
Also that doesn't include the fake asylum claim users. They push real and in danger asylum seekers to the back of the line. Making it so they have to wait longer to be admitted and increasing their chances of dying.
@RekItRalph since the only argument for illegals being tax-positive is that they dont get benefits
If they could get citizenship easier then your wages would go back up because they have bargining power
@RekItRalph Easy question. When Democrats amnesty illegals and make them citizens will they get the benefits of Social Security and Medicare they are paying into or not?
as my pastebin explains
for fuck sake m8 how you expect that?
"muh paste bin"
there is like 10 years of line people are waiting
Undocumented immigrants not only pay taxes, but it is a net gain for the system. According to the Institute of Taxation and Economic Policy, half of the undocumented workers in the unites states to file for tax returns. Undocumented immigrants paid $23 billion in taxes, but won't receive the benefits. Benefits such as social security, Medicare and income tax credit, and so on. Legal immigrants can't receive the benefits either. Not until they have been in the country for 10 years.
https://itep.org/wp-content/uploads/ITEP-2017-Undocumented-Immigrants-State-and-Local-Contributions.pdf
http://taxpayeradvocate.irs.gov/Media/Default/Documents/2015ARC/ARC15_Volume1_MSP_18_ITIN.pdf
https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-utl/20-Immigration%20and%20Taxation.pdf
and you just pile up 100x more illegals in their face and say yeah make those legal first
@RekItRalph the question from me will be - how many of them are we going to let in?
@RekItRalph 1bln of people from India?
This is how much Illegal Immigrants costs United States annually.
Don't know don't care
It literally does not matter
@RekItRalph and if not - then isn't it basically "illegals are new legals"
@Piolun It's really simple. The only way one can claim an illegal with a job is a net benefit for the economy is to ignore that the job could be done by an unemployed American citizen. If you include the costs of having that American citizen unemployed there is simply no way the average illegal alien is anything but a net negative to the economy.
Why have a government at all if your gonna have illegals running rampant? You wanna bring about the fall of empires is all.
Or you could give them citizenship and increase their bargining power so working class wages go up you idiot LOL
a childlike understanding
how old are you guys?
HOW YOU GIVE THEM?
HOW THE FUCK! SERIOUSLY THERE IS 10YEARS OF LINE
Or not reward them for breaking the law, which exists for a reason.
HOW I GIVE THEM WHAT? SPEAK CLEARLY!
@RekItRalph You really are that dumb, troll.
They already have citizenship. In their home countries.
@Piolun It is like me stealing your wallet. It is a net gain for the economy as long as I don't count your loss.