Message from @Piolun
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or basically any city in the world with large minorities
I am making unstained claims?
@CasualSailor can you rephrase that in a way that makes more sense please?
Oh?
i swear those open border advocates never seen anything outside US
Naw I used to live in Asia
@RekItRalph come to my country, i pay want?
I pay want. I caveman
we have no borders here
I primitive neanderthall. Wall good.
I make fire
Besides if you want to see the effect of UNVETTED immigrants, take a look at European Union. It was stable just 10 years ago, now it is almost in the midst of a civil war between themselves.
also thats the reason my country shrinks to the 1/2 of what it has been
How would Asian countries approach a whole group of Muricans coming in and not assilimating?
since 2007
I literally don't care about Europe
we're talking about American security
@RekItRalph You claimed that illegals pay into Social Security and Medicare and will never receive benefits. So you are suggesting that when Trump is defeated in 2020 and Democrats amnesty all of them and make them citizens that you will oppose them receiving their benefits. I find that cruel.
yeah no sht because EU/Asia will be coming freely there
I do not like illegal immigrants. I DO however accept LEGAL immigrants.
@CasualSailor Yeah, it sounds like that the only argument that illegal imigrants are net-benefitiary is because they are basically 2nd class citizens (for the first 10 years) that are paying and not rescieving.
Yet they recieve.
also while 10% might work like decent human being there most people will just kidnapp rape and make human trafficking business because it surely pays alot!
How do you go from "You claimed that illegals pay into Social Security and Medicare and will never receive benefits. " to "So you are suggesting that when Trump is defeated in 2020 and Democrats amnesty all of them and make them citizens that you will oppose them receiving their benefits. I find that cruel."
Why do you think we want to make them all citizens
Also that doesn't include the fake asylum claim users. They push real and in danger asylum seekers to the back of the line. Making it so they have to wait longer to be admitted and increasing their chances of dying.
@RekItRalph since the only argument for illegals being tax-positive is that they dont get benefits
If they could get citizenship easier then your wages would go back up because they have bargining power
@RekItRalph Easy question. When Democrats amnesty illegals and make them citizens will they get the benefits of Social Security and Medicare they are paying into or not?
as my pastebin explains
for fuck sake m8 how you expect that?
"muh paste bin"
there is like 10 years of line people are waiting
Undocumented immigrants not only pay taxes, but it is a net gain for the system. According to the Institute of Taxation and Economic Policy, half of the undocumented workers in the unites states to file for tax returns. Undocumented immigrants paid $23 billion in taxes, but won't receive the benefits. Benefits such as social security, Medicare and income tax credit, and so on. Legal immigrants can't receive the benefits either. Not until they have been in the country for 10 years.
https://itep.org/wp-content/uploads/ITEP-2017-Undocumented-Immigrants-State-and-Local-Contributions.pdf
http://taxpayeradvocate.irs.gov/Media/Default/Documents/2015ARC/ARC15_Volume1_MSP_18_ITIN.pdf
https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-utl/20-Immigration%20and%20Taxation.pdf
@RekItRalph ok, lets assume you are perfectly fine when according to the current data
and you just pile up 100x more illegals in their face and say yeah make those legal first
@RekItRalph the question from me will be - how many of them are we going to let in?
@RekItRalph 1bln of people from India?
This is how much Illegal Immigrants costs United States annually.
Don't know don't care