If I argue that someone must be right simply because they have a PhD, I wonder if that shouldn't be an ad hominem.

pls

explain

@kodec ad hominem is "You're stupid, therefore your argument is also wrong"

sounds good

as if someones intelligence can affect a fact

I actually forgot what the argument was

Hmmm ... in popular use, yes.

i am basically retarded

No that's an appeal to authority Undead

Since everyone is insulting everyone

I guess.

Ad hominem appeal to personal shit rather than logic

But you can also argue from a positive property of a person, without it being an appeal to authority.

ad hominem is something that a very smart npc says everyday

The mechanisms of the fallacy are the same as with a negative ad hominem.

ad homie

ad hominem is ignoring the actual arguments truth, and base the facts soley on the persons character

"If they are bad, they CLEARLY can't speak truth"

Npc

Yes, character, but why always a negative aspect?

Ad homie talking to homer

adds homie

aids homie

If I rather believe someone I like personally, does that not rely on the same mechanisms of argumentation?

Add hormones

thats just general bias

Yes, but based on the person.

ad hominem is that you reject the argument based on someones character

not that you have a preference for an argument

Otherwise you could say the same about the negative case.

aids hemorrhoids

I think there should be a case for positive ad hominem.

there is none

"That person is a (blank) so of course they are lying and you can't trust what they are saying" Ad Hominem attack

it's also called ad hominem, it's just the defense of it

khann

my mann

hemorrhoids

"this person is trustworthy because of {unrelated situation}"

btw, what is it with these weirdos coming into this discord, making grand claims of being so smart

then doing nothing to back it up?

If I attack an argument by attacking the person, should I not also be able to seek to substantiate an argument by not attacking but elevating a person?

it's also called a "false expert" I think